Strong and high trees on both sides of streets

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I am wondering whether the phrase "Strong and high trees on both sides of streets" sound natural.

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1) Strong and high trees on both sides of streets of a city are a grand view.

2) Strong and high trees of the pedestrian malls are a grand view for a city.


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I am wondering whether the phrase "Strong and [STRIKE]high[/STRIKE] tall trees (mature trees) on both sides of the streets" sound natural.

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1) Strong and high trees on both sides of streets of a city are (make for) a grand view.

2) Strong and high trees of the pedestrian malls are a grand view for a city (give grand views to a city).


Source: English [STRIKE]depiction[/STRIKE] writing practice by me.

See my suggestions above. The sentences could be made more interesting.
 

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I don't like 'strong' to describe trees.
 

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That's not natural.

It is better than "are a grand view".

"Something gives a city grand views" may be better.

Provide? Endows a city with? Please provide alternatives if you say a word/phrase is not natural.
 
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It is better than "are a grand view".
I think the opposite, actually.

"Something gives a city grand views" may be better.
No.

Provide? Endows a city with? Please provide alternatives if you say a word/phrase is not natural.
It's not my sentence, so why should I provide an alternative?! I will in this case, but the way this forum works is that the OP provides a sentence and the teachers comment.
One alternative is "offer".
 

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I think the opposite, actually.


No.


It's not my sentence, so why should I provide an alternative?! I will in this case, but the way this forum works is that the OP provides a sentence and the teachers comment.
One alternative is "offer".

Is the original sentence #2 correct?
 

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No, it's not natural.
 

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It's not my sentence, so why should I provide an alternative?! I will in this case, but the way this forum works is that the OP provides a sentence and the teachers comment.
One alternative is "offer".

The trees of the pedestrian mall offer grand views to/for a city.

The OP meant the trees themselves (lining both sides of the streets) are a beautiful sight to behold and help beautify the city. "Offer grand/good views" seems to me like you get good views from where you stand under the trees, like they are situated at a vantage point overlooking some beautiful scenery. What I was trying to say is that the trees themselves are great to look at and enhance the streetscape. I was merely trying to fill in the blank created by OP - __ grand view for a city. It looks like it is impossible to fill to make it sound natural.
 

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As speaker of colloquial British English I would always use tall rather than high to describe a tree.

Because native British trees are slow growing strong and high does sound to me like a tautology as strength and height come together in their natural development. Normally we would simply describe such trees as mature.
 
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I am wondering whether the phrase "Strong and high trees on both sides of streets" sound natural.

It does not.

1. A high tree is a tree up on a mountain or cliff. A tall tree is a tree that towers above the ground.

2. When you say "Strong and tall," you're talking about two different types of trees: strong trees and tall trees. If all the trees are both strong and tall, use a comma: Strong, tall trees.

3. When the trees are on both sides, we say the street is lined with them. We often use the phrase tree-lined street.

4. A view is from a distance, and you can't usually see a street or pedestrial mall from far away. Use sight instead.


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1) Strong and high trees on both sides of streets of a city are a grand view.

There's no such thing as a country street. Better:

- Streets lined with strong, tall trees are a grand sight.


2) Strong and high trees of the pedestrian malls are a grand view for a city.

Likewise, there are no pedestrial malls out in the country. Better:


- Pedestrian malls lined with strong, tall trees are a grand sight.


Source: English depiction practice by me.
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Streets lined with strong, tall trees are a grand sight.

What about: Streets lined with strong, tall trees make/make for a grand sight?

Yes, sight
is definitely better than view in the orginal. View implies the sight looking out from a place, as in a lookout.
 

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1) Streets lined with strong, tall trees are a grand sight.

2)Pedestrian malls lined with strong, tall trees are a grand sight.

These are much better, sure.

But what they emphasize is slightly different. Putting "streets" first makes "streets" in the limelight, while the central topic in which these sentences stay is about the role of trees in this era of climate change. That is why I put "strong, tall trees" first in the lines because there are bad guys in China who tend to destroy the lovely plants which protect our environment.
 

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These are much better, sure.

But what they emphasize is slightly different. Putting "streets" first makes "streets" in the limelight, while the central topic in which these sentences stay is about the role of trees in this era of climate change. That is why I put "strong, tall trees" first in the lines because there are bad guys in China who tend to destroy the lovely plants which protect our environment.

I think trees per se do not make a great sight. They do not look that great in their natural habitat, haphazardly grown. It is how they are laid out in relation to the streets, outdoor spaces and buildings, that is the landscape design, that make them look great. There is the idea of an avenue leading to a building with trees lining the approach road on both sides.

Vandalism of public properties is another matter.
 
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Strong, tall trees do make a grand sight themselves. They are loyal guards of this planet, while concrete buildings, in the eye of some people, are ugly designs compared to the wonder of the nature.




Vandalism of public properties is another matter.

What about vandalism done by officials? Such officials are called fatuous officials.
 
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