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    #1

    Great's house’s yard.

    Source : 7 grader's homework
    1. Which is proper between "someone's house's yard" or "the yard of someone's house"?
    Question : Where does the story begin?
    Answer : The story begins with Nate the Great's house’s yard.

    2. Nate the Great is a detective and he is trying to find out where the lost troll is.
    is the corrected version correct?

    ....Nate the Great continued thinking and reasoning and went to someone than he knew(that knew) Rosamond had lost a troll. But he didn’t know where is it(it was).
    So he thought and thought, and reasoned and reasoned.... - student version
    So he constantly contemplated on where it was/kept thinking about it/thought about it over and over again - corrected version


    *"Nate the Great" reference site
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_the_Great
    Last edited by keannu; 03-Sep-2020 at 02:50.

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    #2

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    Someone's house's yard is more likely to be used in a conversation. The other is more formal.
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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    #3

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    1. Which is proper between more natural "someone's house's yard" or "the yard of someone's house"?
    Question : Where does the story begin?
    Answer : The story begins with in the yard at Nate the Great's house. ’s yard.
    See above.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    2. Nate the Great is a detective and he is trying to find out where the lost troll is.
    Is the corrected version correct?
    ....Nate the Great continued thinking and reasoning and went to someone than he knew(that knew) Rosamond had lost a troll. But he didn’t know where is it(it was).

    Can you clarify the parts in blue? Why is some text in parenthesis?

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    So he thought and thought, and reasoned and reasoned.... - student version
    So he constantly contemplated on where it was/kept thinking about it/..... - corrected version

    "Contemplated on" is wrong, but "thought about it over and over again" can work and so can "thought long and hard about it". The student's version might work if the text is intended for young children.

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    #4

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    See above.


    Can you clarify the parts in blue? Why is some text in parenthesis?


    "Contemplated on" is wrong, but "thought about it over and over again" can work and so can "thought long and hard about it". The student's version might work if the text is intended for young children.
    Sorry, the parenthesis is the corrected version, I should have marked it differently.

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    #5

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    This is the summary of the detective story, if you find some mistakes , please correct them including the underlined.

    Nate the Great is a detective. He solves easy cases and hard cases. Sometimes he solves strange cases.
    One day Nate the Great got a postcard. It was a message from Rosamond, which said that she had lost something.
    Nate the Great realized that it was an important case. So he thought and reasoned/inferred about this case and went to someone that knew about it.
    Nate the Great continued thinking and reasoning and went to someone that knew Rosamond had lost a troll. But he didn’t know where it was. So he thought about it over and over again.
    Finally Nate the Great found a troll in Rosamond’s boot. Then she gave it to him, saying she thought it was his. So he put the troll in the right place.

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    #6

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    What about pondered/mull over the case?

    I would say received instead of got.
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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    #7

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    This is the summary of the detective story. If you find some any mistakes, please correct them, including the underlined.

    Nate the Great is a detective. He solves easy cases and hard cases. Sometimes, he solves strange cases.

    One day, Nate the Great got a postcard. It was contained a message from Rosamond, which said saying that she had lost something.
    Nate the Great realized that it was an important case. So he thought and reasoned/inferred about this case it and went to someone that knew about it. Nate the Great continued thinking and reasoning and went to talk to/see someone that knew Rosamond had lost a troll, but he didn’t know where it was.

    So he thought about it over and over again. space here
    Finally, Nate the Great found a the troll in Rosamond’s boot.

    Then she gave it to him, saying she thought it was his.

    So he put the troll in the right place.
    Note my changes in red and comments in grey. The final two sentences (in blue) don't make sense. Do you mean that after he returned the troll to Rosamund, she gave him the troll as a reward? What do you mean by putting the troll "in the right place"?

    There was no need to keep repeating that he thought about the case. Of course he did! He's a detective so it's a given that he thought about it a lot and did some investigating.

    Some logic questions:
    How did he know it was an important case if her message just said that she had "lost something"?
    Did he work out it was in the boot of her car just by thinking about it? Didn't he look anywhere else first?
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #8

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    How about Nate the Great's yard?

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    #9

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Note my changes in red and comments in grey. The final two sentences (in blue) don't make sense. Do you mean that after he returned the troll to Rosamund, she gave him the troll as a reward? What do you mean by putting the troll "in the right place"?

    There was no need to keep repeating that he thought about the case. Of course he did! He's a detective so it's a given that he thought about it a lot and did some investigating.

    Some logic questions:
    How did he know it was an important case if her message just said that she had "lost something"? She was traveling overseas like in Sweden, and it seemed like a emergency case.
    Did he work out it was in the boot of her car just by thinking about it? Didn't he look anywhere else first?
    He probably thought that she had packed it in her suitcase before leaving for Sweden.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 08-Sep-2020 at 17:41.

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    #10

    Re: Great's house’s yard.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    He probably thought that she had packed it in her suitcase before leaving for Sweden.
    For a start, it would have been useful to know that she had sent the message from abroad. How did thinking she had packed it in a suitcase help him find it in the boot of her car? Was she still in Sweden? Did she take her car to Sweden? If so, did Nate travel to Sweden to find her troll? If not, where was her car and how could her suitcase still be in it if she'd taken her suitcase to Sweden?
    In what world is the loss of a troll an emergency?

    I think you need to go back to basics and write out all the salient points in a list before trying to make a story out of them.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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