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    #11

    Re: former Berlin Wall/ former Soviet Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Yes. And it's useful this way: She lives in Georgia, a country in the former Soviet Union.
    I don't think I would say it that way. I might say: "She lives in Georgia, a country that used to be part of the U.S.S.R." Then, depending on how much time I had I would give that person a (badly needed) history lesson.

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    #12

    Re: former Berlin Wall/ former Soviet Union

    He lived in the former Soviet Union.
    According to this, could we know whether the Soviet Union existed when he lived therein?

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    #13

    Re: former Berlin Wall/ former Soviet Union

    Quote Originally Posted by LevyLi View Post
    He lived in the former Soviet Union.
    I don't find that natural.

    I'd just say He lived in the Soviet Union, just as I's say Vercingetorix lived in Gaul or Egbert was King of Wessex. If I thought that my audience did not know about the demise of the Soviet Union, I'd say something like He lived in what was then the Soviet Union.
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    #14

    Re: former Berlin Wall/ former Soviet Union

    Quote Originally Posted by LevyLi View Post
    He lived in the former Soviet Union.
    According to this, could we know whether the Soviet Union existed when he lived therein?
    I'd interpret that to be a strong yes. It existed when he lived there but doesn't exist now.

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    #15

    Re: former Berlin Wall/ former Soviet Union

    Quote Originally Posted by LevyLi View Post
    He lived in the former Soviet Union.
    According to this, could we know whether the Soviet Union existed when he lived therein?
    It existed, but it wasn't the former Soviet Union when he lived there.

    You could say, for example, that somebody lived in East Germany. To the response, "There is no East Germany" the reply could be, "There was then."

    Things change. The country of Yugoslavia no longer exists. The same for Czechoslovakia. Another one is Prussia. There are other possible examples.
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