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    #11

    Re: "some" as an adjective has occupied the place to modify "thing"

    As I said, "beautiful something" is not impossible.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #12

    Re: "some" as an adjective has occupied the place to modify "thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    As I said, "beautiful something" is not impossible.
    And further, “beautiful something” here seems to be better than “something beautiful”.
    I am not very sure.

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    #13

    Re: "some" as an adjective has occupied the place to modify "thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    And further, “beautiful something” here seems to be better than “something beautiful”.
    I am not very sure.
    It works very well in the context. This is not something a learner should attempt or even pay much attention to. I'm sorry I mentioned the possibility.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #14

    Re: "some" as an adjective has occupied the place to modify "thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    And further, “beautiful something” here seems to be better than “something beautiful”.
    I am not very sure.
    I'd go much further and say that this something beautiful is not possible. I mean, it's not grammatical—anything is possible with poetic licence.

    Note that the word this is in the determiner slot in this ungrammatical noun phrase. Perhaps this gets to what you were getting at in post #1?

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    #15

    Re: "some" as an adjective has occupied the place to modify "thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    I'd go much further and say that this something beautiful is not possible. I mean, it's not grammatical—anything is possible with poetic licence.

    Note that the word this is in the determiner slot in this ungrammatical noun phrase. Perhaps this gets to what you were getting at in post #1?
    I've had a hard time in understanding the post of yours above. Allow me to get it one by one:

    Does "it's not grammatical" mean the phrase "this something beautiful" is not grammatical?

    In other words, "This beautiful something is fire" is grammatical.

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    #16

    Re: "some" as an adjective has occupied the place to modify "thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    Does "it's not grammatical" mean the phrase "this something beautiful" is not grammatical?
    Yes. The phrase has the structure DET + N + ADJ

    In other words, "This beautiful something is fire" is grammatical.
    Yes. The phrase has the structure DET + ADJ + N

    I do think that what I've said here is arguable, however.

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