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    #11

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post

    In this case, look at clear examples of the words judgement/decision/choice as they appear in authentic use.
    Years ago when a couple (husband from America and wife from Britain) taught us the Bible, they said don't judge people. I asked, "If we don't judge people, how could we know whether or not it's safe to contact someone? We judge people just to be safe." (I meant to determine.) They told me it's wrong to say judge. It's correct to say make the right decision.
    You can see what I was and am confused about.

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    If you're not sure whether the examples you find are good ones, you can ask us on this forum.
    Please help me review articles on the two websites:
    https://www.crime-safety-security.co...t-michael.html
    https://divisbyzero.com/2008/09/22/w...d-a-corollary/
    Both were written by native speakers. But the crime articles sound a bit weird to me. I feel much more comfortable with the articles on divisbyzero, especially the comments made by Dorian Sabaz.
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    (30,000 videos? You must be a very old man!)
    Old but not very. Most of the videos on Youtube aren't very long.

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    #12

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

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    Years ago when a couple (husband from America and wife from Britain) taught us the Bible, they said don't judge people.
    Okay, good. Yes, that's what I mean by authentic language in use. You can learn a lot about the word judge from that.

    I asked, "If we don't judge people, how could we know whether or not it's safe to contact someone? We judge people just to be safe." (I meant to determine.) They told me it's wrong to say judge.
    Yes, it seems to me that they were right. I think you misunderstood what they meant. What they were talking about goes to the very heart of the Christian teaching. Can't you remember what the couple were trying to teach you?

    It's correct to say make the right decision.
    You can see what I was and am confused about.
    Well, I'm not sure what you meant to say. What do you mean by 'safe to contact someone'?

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    If you have any specific questions about the use of English in those articles, please start a new thread.

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    #13

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post

    Well, I'm not sure what you meant to say. What do you mean by 'safe to contact someone'?
    I mean people may harm me. I have to know more about them before I could be sure it's safe (or unsafe) to be in certain relationship with them, such as becoming friends, or doing business with them, etc. I have to determine whether or not they'd be friendly to me.
    If judge isn't the correct word, what word(s) could be used in this case?
    I'm thinking of evaluate, assess. But I know they are not correct.
    Could I say I should try to know people more before I decide to associate with them?
    Last edited by realEnglish; 01-Oct-2020 at 05:30.

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    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

    In my humble opinion, evaluate is a perfectly good word to use there.

    I might say:

    I need to get to know that person better before I do business with him. (For example.)
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    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

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    I need to get to know them better before I decide if it's safe to become friends with them, do business with them, etc
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    #16

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    In my humble opinion, evaluate is a perfectly good word to use there.

    I might say:

    I need to get to know that person better before I do business with him. (For example.)
    Thank you! I trust your subconscious.

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    #17

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

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    I mean people may harm me. I have to know more about them before I could be sure it's safe (or unsafe) to be in certain relationships with them, such as becoming friends, or doing business with them, etc. I have to determine whether or not they'd be friendly to me.

    If judge isn't the correct word, what word(s) could be used in this case?

    I'm thinking of "evaluate" or "assess", but I know they are not correct.

    Could I say I should try to know people more before I decide to associate with them?
    Get into the habit of adding line breaks for clarity. Take care to use quotation marks as shown. I know it's fiddly, but it's essential, and we're not going to keep doing it for you.

    (Or you could have italicised them like you did with judge.)

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    #18

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

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    Get into the habit of adding line breaks for clarity. Take care to use quotation marks as shown. I know it's fiddly, but it's essential, and we're not going to keep doing it for you.

    (Or you could have italicised them like you did with judge.)
    Thank you! I didn't even realize.

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    #19

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

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    Thank you! I trust your subconscious.
    Well, I don't know if I would trust my subconscious.


    I have been doing this for over ten years (not all of them as Tarheel), and I will, hopefully, some day get good at it.
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    #20

    Re: Judgment, decision, choice

    Quote Originally Posted by realEnglish View Post
    If a child wants to cross a busy road, I warn him, "You need to watch the traffic carefully and decide where the cars go and decide when and where you can cross the road."
    If the child safely crosses the road, can I say he has the sound judgment? Or, he made the right decision? Or He made the right choice?
    Or another word?
    None of those phrases really fit that situation.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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