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    #41

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    The press secretary has very recently been widely ridiculed by people who don't support the president for thinking that someone who graduated from a small, obscure institution called Rhodes College was, perforce, a Rhodes scholar. Asking a question about the English in a tweet about that gaffe would lead to something similar to the deleted post.
    If someone had ridiculed the secretary in their reply, then the post which should have been deleted by a moderator was theirs, not mine! I didn't ridicule anyone!
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    #42

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

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    Yes, I find it hard to imagine that wasn't intentional. I think it's just part of her rhetoric. I think it's reasonable to call that creativity.

    Good thought. I hadn't looked at it that way.


    Interestingly, I've just discovered that The Independent has quoted the Tweet without the capitalised 'P'. I'm now wondering whether that was a mistake.

    It was probably a kindness.


    . . . What am I missing here?

    That's where the political argument would start the one the original thread was deleted to avoid.
    Now excuse me while I go bite my tongue.

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    #43

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

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    That's where the political argument would start — the one the original thread was deleted to avoid.
    If so, the moderator should delete the particular, political argument post, rather than the whole thread. A thread can be used for future references once the question in it gets solved. Simply closing the thread would be another choice.
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    #44

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Asking a question about the English in a tweet about that gaffe would lead to something similar to the deleted post.
    Exactly. This is the objection that I have—the fact that a question about the use of English in a comment about a comment that many people think was ridiculous may be deemed inappropriate for the forum, based only on the grounds that it could impel members to stray from the point into political discourse.

    To state my point again—it's political discourse that should be avoided on the forum, not discussion of political discourse.

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    #45

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by kadioguy View Post
    If so, the moderator should delete the particular, political argument post, rather than the whole thread. A thread can be used for future references once the question in it gets solved. Simply closing the thread would be another choice.
    I especially like your first suggest, deleting indivual posts instead of closing the thread. (And reminding the poster to keep his or her biases out of it.)

    I remember being disappointed a few weeks ago when another thread was closed before the language questions were answered. It was unfortunate, because it left the poster with the wrong impression of two or three points.

    Anyhow, I'm sure the moderators are thinking about your suggestions.
    Last edited by Charlie Bernstein; 04-Oct-2020 at 17:32.
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    #46

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    I remember being disappointed a few weeks ago when another thread was closed before the language questions were answered. It was unfortunate, because it left the poster with the wrong impression of two or three points.
    Please PM a moderator if that happens again. We'll re-open the thread unless there's a more pressing reason to keep it closed.
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    #47

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "potentially inflammatory" .
    Hmm.

    I am wondering if I should report the post below as potentially inflammatory:

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    I was chatting with an American friend. I mentioned Donald Trump and I said "I hope that he will feel better soon".

    I wonder if my italic sentence is natural.
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    #48

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by kadioguy View Post
    I think that l would like to get a quick (and still professional) reply - the forum could be a better choice.
    Twitter's all over the place- people type fast and capitalise all sorts of things to emphasise what they think is right. It is more warzone that grammar study. Go with the flow and think first and foremost about the biases the people want to post.

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    #49

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    As a general comment, this thread seems to be becoming meta-political at times. There's nothing wrong with discussing genuine language around the political situations of today, but let's keep it civilised and with a good light/heat ratio.

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    #50

    Re: Political content doesn't mean political discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    nothing wrong with discussing genuine language around the political situations of today
    I agree wholeheartedly. That is why I think the deletion of kadioguy's post was unfortunate.
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