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    Thumbs down The Russian or the Russians??

    Hi,

    Can I write "the Russians" when I use the plural, or should I write "the Russians" in any case ?

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    Re: The Russian or the Russians??

    Quote Originally Posted by ieasy View Post
    Hi,
    Can I write "the Russians" when I use the plural, or should I write "the Russians" in any case ?
    It's best to use "the Russians" when you're talking about the people as a whole . There are a few (more or less obscure) contexts where the singular works, but they're not really worth spending time on (I'd only confuse the issue ).

    b
    ps - I'm thinking about singular as against plural. Naturally "a Russian" is fine in many contexts.


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    Re: The Russian or the Russians??

    Hi, Ieasy,
    The nationalities with endings -sh, -ch, -ese do not take -s:
    the French = French people
    the Welsh
    the Japanese

    The others do:
    (the) Russians, Americans Germans etc.
    Cheers

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    Re: The Russian or the Russians??

    Quote Originally Posted by ieasy View Post
    Hi,

    Can I write "the Russians" when I use the plural, or should I write "the Russians" in any case ?
    When one is referring to Russian people as a whole, one would not usually use an article. However, if you are referring to a specific group of Russians, the article is required.

    Russians tend to be hard-working people.
    Russians enjoy drinking vodka.

    During the peace talks, the Russians were the first to walk out.
    The Russians beat the Norwegians in the final hockey match.
    Last edited by MikeNewYork; 13-Oct-2006 at 18:45.


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    Re: The Russian or the Russians??

    Hi,
    Very well explained, Mike. I'll only add a bit to make it clearer. When you mean a country as a political entity, use the:
    The ****ans want to rule the world.
    The ****ans refuse to yield to the pressure.
    When you're talking abt some typical traits, no article:
    Ukrainians are believed to be boastful.
    Germans are hard-working and frugal.
    Rgs

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    Re: The Russian or the Russians??

    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    Hi,
    Very well explained, Mike. I'll only add a bit to make it clearer. When you mean a country as a political entity, use the:
    The ****ans want to rule the world.
    The ****ans refuse to yield to the pressure.
    When you're talking abt some typical traits, no article:
    Ukrainians are believed to be boastful.
    Germans are hard-working and frugal.
    Rgs
    Yes, good addition.

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    ĘThank you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by ieasy View Post
    ĘThank you all
    You're welcome.

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