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    Re: pupil and student?

    Here is my pronunciation of ' pupil'. I hope it is better.
    https://vocaroo.com/1hdaaWGIgzKR

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    Re: pupil and student?

    Quote Originally Posted by mohammedabo View Post
    Here is my pronunciation of ' pupil'. I hope it is better.
    https://vocaroo.com/1hdaaWGIgzKR
    It's better, but you're still making an /i/ sound in the second syllable. It should be a schwa. The second syllable should be identical to the second syllable in little.
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    Re: pupil and student?

    Native speakers simply don't pronounce the last two letters of "pupil" as "-ill". Do you know how to pronounce "people"? If so, copy the pronunciation of "ple" for the end of "pupil".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Here is my modified pronunciation of pupil and student.

    It's also the final sound of total, joyful, and Rachel. Unstressed vowels in English all tend to reduce to schwas.
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    Re: Here is my modified pronunciation of pupil and student.

    Pupil is pronounced the same way in the US and UK: PYOO-pl. We do not pronounce a vowel in the second syllable.

    Student is pronounced differently in the US and UK:

    - US: STOO-dent

    - UK: STYOO-dent

    In the UK, the U sound is usually pronounced YOO when it follows a consonant.

    In the US, you'll notice that in many (not all!) of consonant-U-sound words, we say OO, not YOO.
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    Re: Here is my modified pronunciation of pupil and student.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Pupil is pronounced the same way in the US and UK: PYOO-pl. We do not pronounce a vowel in the second syllable.
    There is a vowel. It's a schwa.
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    Re: Here is my modified pronunciation of pupil and student.

    Pupil /pjuːpl/
    Apple /pl/

    Both have same pronunciation in the last syllables.

    Pupil /pjuːpl/
    Puma /pjuːmə/

    Both have same pronunciation in the first syllables.

    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by worldeng; 21-Apr-2021 at 01:53.

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    Re: Here is my modified pronunciation of pupil and student.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    There is a vowel. It's a schwa.
    Excuse me. There isn't a sound that's like any vowel.
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    Re: Here is my modified pronunciation of pupil and student.

    I'd say some people pronounce the schwa and others don't.

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    Re: pupil and student?

    Quote Originally Posted by mohammedabo View Post
    Here is my pronunciation of ' pupil'. I hope it is better.
    https://vocaroo.com/1hdaaWGIgzKR
    Ironically, when you say it quickly in the middle of a sentence at the beginning (around the 5 second mark in your 2nd recording), your pronunciation is much better than when you deliberately try to pronounce it slowly at the end of that recording.

    When you say it slowly, you're stressing the 2nd syllable 'ple' instead of the first. It's PU-pil, not pu-PIL. The second syllable should be shorter, while the first syllable is held just a slight bit longer.

    This quick video has a good explanation of the articulation of the word, starting at about 0:23.
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