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    all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    It's a problems I often come across when talking. I was talking about what kind of gift I'd prefer, and I said:
    "As a game and a fitness enthusiast I'd prefer gaming consoles, video games, gym wears and all these sorts of things."

    Q1) Do a,b and c mean the same thing?
    a) All these kinds of things/ All this kind of thing.
    b) All these sorts of things/ All this sort of thing.

    c) These kinds of stuff.

    Q2) For 1 and 2, is the singular more common than the plural?

    Q3) Since stuff is plural, is it possible to say "This kind of stuff"?
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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    Don't group games consoles and video games together with gym wear. These are very different things.

    Here are some phrases you could possibly use, depending on what you want to say:

    things like that
    stuff like that
    that kind of thing

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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Don't group games consoles and video games together with gym wear. These are very different things.

    Here are some phrases you could possibly use, depending on what you want to say:

    things like that
    stuff like that
    that kind of thing
    I think 1 and 2 go with things which aren't similar, like in my context. Does 3 also work here?

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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    You can't put video games and gymwear in the same category, but that's what you do when you refer to them as those kinds of things.
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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    You can't put video games and gymwear in the same category, but that's what you do when you refer to them as those kinds of things.
    things like that/these
    stuff like that/these
    that/this kind of thing

    Is 'that' more natural than 'these' when we use these sentences? For example, "I like wearing casual wear such as, jeans, shirts, running shoes and things like that/these."

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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    Is 'that' more natural than 'these' when we use these sentences? For example, "I like wearing casual wear such as, jeans, shirts, running shoes and things like that/these."
    Yes.

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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    You can't put video games and gymwear in the same category, but that's what you do when you refer to them as those kinds of things.
    I was going through the post and just realized that I didn't quite understand what you meant. Did you mean that 'those kinds of things' can be used when we talk about different kinds of things rather then similar ones?

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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    I was going through the thread and just realized that I didn't quite understand what you meant. Did you mean that 'those kinds of things' can be used when we talk about different kinds of things rather then similar ones?
    Videos and gymwear are different kinds of things. They are not in the same category.

    You got it right in post #5.
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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    things like that/these
    stuff like that/these
    that/this kind of thing

    Is 'that' more natural than 'these' when we use these sentences? For example, "I like wearing casual wear such as [no comma] jeans, shirts, running shoes and things like that/these."
    Yes, that's right.
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    Re: all these sorts/kinds of things/stuff.

    By the way, Ashraful Haque, stuff is not plural even though it is commonly used as a synonym for things . Its plural stuffs exists, although it is rare nowadays. Stuff is what we call a collective noun.

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