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    kadioguy is offline Key Member
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    Re: I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    I don't think it has to do with understanding.
    But I think that it can roughly means "to understand something". Let's wait and see other native speakers' replies.

    As an example:

    I saw your point.
    Last edited by kadioguy; 21-Jan-2021 at 10:17. Reason: Improved contents
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    Re: I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.

    Quote Originally Posted by kadioguy View Post
    1. I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.
    2. I saw the tree swaying in the breeze.

    a. to become aware of somebody/something by using your eyes.
    b. to understand something.
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    'Saw' in (1) can mean either (a) or (b), while 'saw' in (2) only means (a). Is that right?
    At a stretch, yes. Meaning one would only apply if context had established that the speaker had been trying to understand what was happening.
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    Re: I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.

    Quote Originally Posted by kadioguy View Post
    a. to become aware of somebody/something by using your eyes.

    b. to understand something.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    At a stretch, yes. Meaning one would only apply if context had established that the speaker had been trying to understand what was happening.
    Did you mean to say meaning two?
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    Re: I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.

    Quote Originally Posted by kadioguy View Post
    Did you mean to say meaning two?
    Yes. Sorry.
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    Re: I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    1. I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.
    2. I saw the tree swaying in the breeze.

    NOT A TEACHER

    Sitifan, maybe for all intents and purposes, they mean the same in most contexts,

    Mona: I saw you yesterday running away really fast from that big oak tree. What was the problem?
    Raul: Oh, I saw (that) the tree (was) swaying in the breeze and was afraid (that) it might fall on me.

    On the other hand, sentence No. 2 could be a shorter version of "I saw the tree (that was) swaying in the breeze." I cannot, however, think of an appropriate dialog(ue).

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    Re: I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    - I saw it sway and ran to safety.

    - I saw that it was swaying and ran to safety.

    In both, I saw a tree sway and ran. We call this cause and effect. The difference:

    - In the first, it was a single action: It moved back and forth once.

    Charlie, I think you may have misread the original question. We're not concerned with I saw it sway. We're talking about I saw it swaying.

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    Re: I saw that the tree was swaying in the breeze.

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Charlie, I think you may have misread the original question. We're not concerned with I saw it sway. We're talking about I saw it swaying.
    Oops. > Blush blush! <

    Must be time for another cup of tea.
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