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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Is the sexual innuendo intended? I assume it is, right?
    In my opinion, certainly not by Wodehouse way back then. As for the TV series, it may possibly have been intended. Stephen Fry is and has always been subversive.

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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Wodehouse's male characters in the Jeeves series were almost entirely non-sexual. They were generally not smart enough to figure out how.
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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Wodehouse's male characters in the Jeeves series were almost entirely non-sexual. They were generally not smart enough to figure out how.
    Right. I'm not familiar with the characters. I just thought that perhaps Wodehouse intended it to be an accidental innuendo, for comic effect, rather than Bertie deliberately making one.

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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Right. I'm not familiar with the characters. I just thought that perhaps Wodehouse intended it to be an accidental innuendo, for comic effect, rather than Bertie deliberately making one.
    That would be very uncharacteristic.
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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    I can't think of him doing anything like that and I have read a lot. Some people see a gay undertone in the relationship between Jeeves and Wooster, but I think it's nonsense.

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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Absolutely. After all, Jeeves has an understanding with a young lady.
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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Am I the only ... member (ahem), then, who does hear an innuendo?

    Anyway, like I said, I was wondering if Wodehouse wanted the phrase to sound ever so slightly sexual. Even if the idea was not that it was meant to be a deliberate innuendo on Bertie Wooster's part, isn't it possible that Wodehouse deliberately created one? For whatever reason?

    I'd like to see a bit more context.

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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    It's easy to see the innuendo. I just don't think Wodehouse did it intentionally.
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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Right. I'm not familiar with the characters. I just thought that perhaps Wodehouse intended it to be an accidental innuendo, for comic effect, rather than Bertie deliberately making one.
    I'm sure Wodehouse wasn't making an off-color joke. I don't mean he never would, though I can't remember him ever doing it. It's just that that particular phrase, as a lewd double entendre, would not have been something he would have done. If he was sophomoric, it went in a different direction.
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    Re: To burst with someone's meat ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Not really, but my non-native speaker wife enjoyed the opening of the Jeeves and Wooster with Fry and Laurie, where Jeeves goes several minutes without making sense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7p...EJDLyiaLWr_MUU
    I've never seen the TV show. (This is the first I've heard of it.)

    But it's not like the Jeeves of the novels to talk nonesense. That was Bertie's department.

    Where does it happen on the video? If you can tell us the place where "Jeeves goes on for several minutes," I'll take a look.
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