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    Red face "Passenger have ridden the first Ferris wheel at the Columbian Exposition in Chicago"

    "Passenger have ridden the first Ferris wheel at the Columbian Exposition in Chicago in1893"

    This sentence is actually incorrect. I've searched for this but mostly answered it using Present Perfect which becomes "has ridden".

    My questions are:
    1. Why it should be in perfect form. Especially in present perfect, why not past perfect because it happened in the pas and ended in the past.

    2. Why don't we use Simple Past form? Because there are the exact time. And there are no features of perfect, like since or for.

    Thank you...

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    Re: "Passenger have ridden the first Ferris wheel at the Columbian Exposition in Chic

    Please tell us where you heard or saw this sentence. It is incorrect in several different ways.

    1. This is not a good question. It is not true that it should be in perfect form. Furthermore, it's already in present perfect form.
    2. It is possible to use a simple past verb form to express what you mean.

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    Re: "Passenger have ridden the first Ferris wheel at the Columbian Exposition in Chic

    Quote Originally Posted by Lalachan View Post
    "Passengers have ridden the first Ferris wheel at the Columbian Exposition in Chicago in [space] 1893."

    This sentence is actually incorrect.

    You're right Even with the grammatical corrections I made, it doesn't make sense.


    A newspaper written the next day might use that phrasing to report on the event, but it wouldn't say "in 1893," because that would be understood.


    I've searched for this but mostly answered it using present perfect, which becomes "has ridden".

    My questions are:

    1. Why should it should be in perfect form? Especially in present perfect, why not past perfect, because it happened in the past and ended in the past?

    2. Why don't we use the simple past form, because there is an exact time and there are no features of perfect, like since or for?

    Thank you.
    Tell us where you found the quotation. Thanks!
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 21-Jan-2021 at 22:14. Reason: Added a correction
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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