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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    There is no special kind of English called classroom English.
    Is there a kind of Chinese called classroom Chinese that is only used in school?
    Or when you use the term classroom English, do you mean things an English teacher in China might say?
    https://www.gifu-net.ed.jp/kyoka/eig...%20English.htm
    Many textbooks contain a Classroom English section devoted to useful words and phrases that are often used during an English lesson. You can find them usually at the beginning or ending of a textbook and they may be titled something other than “Classroom English”.One of the benefits of using the classroom English in a textbook is the fact that students have access to the textbooks whenever they want and therefore have no excuse not to use classroom English.
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    I need native speakers' help.

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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    I wonder what classroom Chinese is.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Dz6nQgV3Y
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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    As a name for the vocabulary and expressions commonly used by teachers, "classroom English" is natural. We use it for vocabulary though, not for a particular variety of the language.
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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    OK. Words and phrases used in the classroom.

    They are not special to the classroom though. They are just things you will typically hear people say in a classroom.
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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    GoesStation has said it, but just to be completely clear: Both classroom English and classroom Chinese refer to the set of linguistic items that are typically used by students and teachers in a classroom setting. They are not varieties of English or Chinese. They are often taught at the beginning of a language course, with the aim of equipping learners with the linguistic resources to navigate the lessons and the classroom environment. These linguistic items are most typically at the sentence level.

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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    https://www.gifu-net.ed.jp/kyoka/eig...%20English.htm
    Many textbooks contain a Classroom English section devoted to useful words and phrases that are often used during an English lesson. You can find them usually at the beginning or ending of a textbook and they may be titled something other than “Classroom English”.One of the benefits of using the classroom English in a textbook is the fact that students have access to the textbooks whenever they want and therefore have no excuse not to use classroom English.
    Aha! Thanks!
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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    I would say:

    Many Chinese textbooks use it for teaching English ....

    The page that that link takes you to has more Chinese on it than English, and the English sentences it does have are unnatural at best. They need help!

    We got sidetracked. We should be focusing on using "help" in a sentence.
    Last edited by Tarheel; 25-Jan-2021 at 11:05. Reason: Fix text
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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    help

    I will help you with your homework.
    I will help you learn English.
    Jerry, would you help me clean up the room?
    The sleep medicine helps me get to sleep.
    She helped me carry my groceries home.
    Please help me remember that.
    Johnny helped his sister get out of the pool.
    Thank you for helping!
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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

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    1. May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.
    2. The students on duty help send down the workbooks, please.
    3. Students in the far back please help collect your workbooks to the front.
    4. Students on duty today please pass down the workbooks.
    (All the above sentences are quoted from Taiwanese teachers of English)
    https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Eng-Class/M.1...962.A.02D.html

    Which of the above sentences is not acceptable to native speakers?
    There's quite a lot to deal with here. I think we should look at them one at a time.

    1. is too polite and ungrammatical, and unnatural.
    2. is okay but written incorrectly. Its supposed to be an imperative.
    3. is similarly written incorrectly and ungrammatical. You can't 'collect something to somewhere'.
    4. is is good but written incorrectly , in the same way as 2.

    Try this:

    Would the students on duty bring the workbooks down to the front, please.

    Notice I haven't used a question mark since this is not a question. The way I see it, from the point of view of a teacher, it's a command, thinly veiled as a polite request.

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    Re: May I ask the student in the far back help collect the workbooks of your row.

    Then there's:

    Collect the workbooks and bring them to the teacher's desk.

    Or:

    Collect the workbooks and bring them to the front of the room.

    Spoken to whoever needs to hear it. (If I were the teacher I would use their names, since I would know them.)
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