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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexey86 View Post
    Type of is implicit in all these sentences,
    No. "food" is used in its generic sense in those sentences. They're like definitions.
    What is fresh food?
    Fresh food is: food which has not been preserved.

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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    No. "food" is used in its generic sense in those sentences. They're like definitions.
    What is fresh food?
    Fresh food is: food which has not been preserved.
    So, fresh food is not a (type of) food which has not been preserved, right?
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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Correct. In that sentence, it's not a type of food. It is any food (which has not been preserved).

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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    Correct. In that sentence, it's not a type of food. It is any food (which has not been preserved).
    Just to clarify, if I wrote Fresh food is a food which has not been preserved, would it be incorrect, or would a be read as a short form for a type of?

    There are also the following sentences in the article:

    A negative-calorie food is food that supposedly requires more food energy to be digested than the food provides.
    A functional food is a food given an additional function by adding new ingredients or more of existing ingredients.


    These are also definitions, but for some reason they take a. And what is confusing is that the latter takes a after is, while the former doesn't.
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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexey86 View Post
    Just to clarify, if I wrote Fresh food is a food which has not been preserved, would it be incorrect, or would a be read as a short form for a type of?
    It would be clumsy at best.


    A negative-calorie food is food that supposedly requires more food energy to be digested than the food provides.
    A functional food is a food given an additional function by adding new ingredients or more of existing ingredients.


    These are also definitions, but for some reason they take a. And what is confusing is that the latter takes a after is, while the former doesn't.
    The first one is incorrect.
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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    It would be clumsy at best.
    A fresh food is a food which has not been preserved.

    Is this variant appropriate?
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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexey86 View Post
    A fresh food is a food which has not been preserved.

    Is this variant appropriate?
    Yes.
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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Yes.
    Ramen is a spicy soup.
    Fresh food is a food which has not been preserved.


    Why is a perfectly correct in the former meaning a type of and inappropriate in the latter? Both statements are general.
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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Where are you seeing a difference? All the responses so far have indicated that "a" is required in your sentences.
    You used "see" in the progressive. Can we non-native speakers use it too?

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    Re: "A" before "soup"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    You used "see" in the progressive. Can we non-native speakers use it too?
    I don't see why not, provided you use it idiomatically. I don't think there are many cases where it's natural.
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