Page 2 of 2 First 1 2
Results 11 to 14 of 14
  1. #11
    jutfrank's Avatar
    jutfrank is offline VIP Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • England
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    14,145

    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinusphilo View Post
    It's because would is conditional
    I don't think that's right. Do you mean that in I was surprised that she would have behaved thus, there is a sense of conditionality? What exactly is conditional?

  2. #12
    constantinusphilo is offline Junior Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • Russian
      • Home Country:
      • Russian Federation
      • Current Location:
      • Canada
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    42

    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    I don't think that's right. Do you mean that in I was surprised that she would have behaved thus, there is a sense of conditionality? What exactly is conditional?
    I think that the sentence I was surprised that she would have behaved thus is either grammatically incorrect, or 'would' here signifies a verb of volition, that is, I am surprised at her having wanted to behave like that. Still, I am not sure if would is correct here, though it may be uses erroneously by the people.

  3. #13
    Charlie Bernstein's Avatar
    Charlie Bernstein is offline VIP Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    8,870

    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinusphilo View Post
    I think that the sentence I was surprised that she would have behaved thus is either grammatically incorrect,

    It's grammatical formal speech.


    or 'would' here signifies a verb of volition, that is, I am surprised at her having wanted to behave like that.

    It's not saying that she would want to do it. It's that she would do it.


    Still, I am not sure if would is correct here,

    It's fine.


    though it may be used erroneously by some people.
    All words are used erroneously sometimes.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

  4. #14
    Charlie Bernstein's Avatar
    Charlie Bernstein is offline VIP Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    8,870

    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinusphilo View Post
    I do not think that should and would are interchangeable in this kind of sentences. For instance, it is correct to say: 'I was surprised that she should have behaved thus', but would would be incorrect here .
    You might be thinking of should in the sense of ought to or is obliged to or is expected to.

    That's not how it's being used there.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

Page 2 of 2 First 1 2

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •