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    another instance of this 'should'

    There is another instance of this 'should' from the same author, Paul Bowles (The sheltering Sky):
    at the same time it was inevitable that she should regard the dream
    as an omen.

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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    That's a common usage.
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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Yes. It means would. It's kind of old-fashioned.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Yes. It means would. It's kind of old-fashioned.
    I don't think they mean the same thing. Would would express a conditional, while should expresses a subjunctive mood.
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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    That's a common usage.
    Yes, right. This is not the same use of should as in the example in the other post about twilight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Yes. It means would. It's kind of old-fashioned.
    Yes, I agree it's very similar to would. It's characteristic of British English to use should rather than would here, which I suppose might make it sound rather old-fashioned to American ears.

    This use of should is particularly common I'd say in subordinate that-clauses, of the pattern: It + BE + [adjective] + that-clause

    In Michael Swan's PEU entry on this, he says that it expresses "personal judgements and reactions, especially to facts which are already known or have already been mentioned".

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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Yes, right. This is not the same use of should as in the example in the other post about twilight.


    Yes, I agree it's very similar to would. It's characteristic of British English to use should rather than would here, which I suppose might make it sound rather old-fashioned to American ears.

    This use of should is particularly common I'd say in subordinate that-clauses, of the pattern: It + BE + [adjective] + that-clause

    In Michael Swan's PEU entry on this, he says that it expresses "personal judgements and reactions, especially to facts which are already known or have already been mentioned".
    I do not think that should and would are interchangeable in this kind of sentences. For instance, it is correct to say: 'I was surprised that she should have behaved thus', but would would be incorrect here .

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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinusphilo View Post
    I do not think that should and would are interchangeable in this kind of sentences. For instance, it is correct to say: 'I was surprised that she should have behaved thus', but would would be incorrect here .
    It works fine for me either way.
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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinusphilo View Post
    Here is another instance of this 'should' from the same author, Paul Bowles (The sheltering Sky):

    "At the same time, it was inevitable that she should regard the dream as an omen."
    Please note how your post should have looked. Leave an empty line on either side of a quote, and enclose the quote in quotation marks.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinusphilo View Post
    I do not think that should and would are interchangeable in this kind of sentences. For instance, it is correct to say: 'I was surprised that she should have behaved thus', but would would be incorrect here .
    Can you explain your reasons for this, please?

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    Re: another instance of this 'should'

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Can you explain your reasons for this, please?
    It's because would is conditional while should is subjunctive (and conditional for the first person).

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