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    #1

    for which

    Dear teachers,

    Please read the following sentence:

    When the court checked up on his property, it found more than 10 million yuan worth of cash and valuables for which he could not explain the source.
    I think here 'for which' means 'the source for his property'. But I have consulted my dictionaries and could only find the use of 'source of'. There wasn't a single example of 'source for'. Could you please explain if this is a mistake?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang

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    Re: for which

    It exists- the BNC has 221 examples, though that compares to 4,788 for 'source of'
    Here are some:
    1 A07 religious origin to adopt. But Roman catholic adoption agencies, the source for the majority of children awaiting adoption, are not obliged to
    2 A0C caterer who is topping up need not return to the same source for the top-up. Identify a selection of cutlery distributors, send
    3 A0D to unambiguity, can not be unequivocally accepted as a primary source for Hercule Poirot, the directness of the next reference brooks no
    4 A0D and it can therefore be definitively stated that Agatha Christie's source for the character of Hercule Poirot was Speke, Parot. But
    5 A12 for "of such stuff dreams are made". Another source for dances of character can be found in the sad clown or
    6 A1B notably in the memoirs of Madame de Rémusat (a principal source for Canto 101), this new association with Chalais re-activated his
    7 A4W . Ford has invested £157m to make Dagenham the sole European source for the new lean-burn 2-litre engine for the Sierra and Granada.
    8 A62 about party leaders and political issues, and the most helpful source for making up their minds how to vote. BBC-TV news scored
    9 A62 vote. We asked respondents to assess the usefulness of each source for each purpose by giving it a "mark out of ten"
    10 A6S The rhetorical use they made of anthropologists' ideas as a source for a criticism of the society of their time, especially as
    11 A6S . In The German Ideology Marx had used Tacitus as his source for tribal German society, but by the time of Formen he
    12 ABJ Times remains the voice of American public policy. The best source for its reporters in a foreign land may well be the American
    13 ACP Hopkins is worried that Strieber is turning his experiences into the source for a new religion. As well as the books and the film,
    14 ACR financial ruin to two farmers. Industrial fallout is one suspected source for the contamination, but the farmers in Shuttlewood, near Bolsover
    15 ADC a guide to ethics and etiquette, which is a major source for social history of the age; (3) Stromateis,
    16 ADC the work is by Hippolytus, the document is a major source for early liturgy and is the first text to witness to liturgical
    17 ADH inscriptions. For example, coins provide the fullest and most systematic source for the names and titles of Roman emperors and may sometimes provide
    18 AM4 , had come from the CEGB. The Commission's cited source for this information was Dr P F Chester of the CEGB,
    19 AMH Ltd, discusses the role of the Banks as an important source for exporters --; and importers and outlines the services and assistance available
    20 AP7 diaries and correspondence. Diaries have proved by far the most vivid source for intimate family life in early modern England. When Thomas Turner
    21 APK examples of ideas. This hard backed book is an invaluable source for the amateur photographer who wants to make the break into studio
    22 AT8 to other fuels, oil will remain Japan's major energy source for the rest of this century. The difficulty will be maintaining
    23 AT8 abundant fuel --; coal --; as a "clean" energy source for power generation by gasifying it. At the plant electric power
    24 AYJ professional bodies and so on. All of these may be a valuable source for recruitment. For some jobs you will have to pay for
    25 B07 , and the BNB has certainly lost ground as a selection source for this reason. Nevertheless it is probably still the most effective
    26 B0H previous commentators on British Cabinet government. They are an important source for two reasons: they indicate that the overload problem has been
    27 B0R one of the most remarkable in the language. The primary source for "Kubla Khan" is the book Purchas his Pilgrimage (
    28 B15 of quantitative forecasts. Two departments rely mainly on a single source for their forecasts with perhaps slight alterations to incorporate their own views
    29 B15 consequences …. To use environmental analysis as a special intelligence source for top managers is perhaps the single most common reason why it
    30 B25 we turn later to look at "people" as our source for data we shall consider various forms of observation (such as participant
    31 B25 life and general outlook. Political correspondence can be a vital source for political history, but for specifically sociological purposes there are likely
    32 B25 date after initial publication. The Bibliographic Index is a good source for all sorts of bibliographies and includes many contained in books themselves
    33 B2D . Elsewhere members of the public had experienced odours from one source for over 20 years; needless to say even the most persistent
    34 B2J organic-rich shales are likely to constitute a much more widespread potential source for hydrocarbons --; probably mainly for gas and condensate --; than the
    35 B2P the same pattern as sale. Since Ulpian is the only source for this, conclusions must be limited to late classical law,
    36 B31 its attendant chaff heap. These provided an important winter food source for many species, mainly seed eaters. There is every likelihood
    37 B3D placed on the use of the card catalogue as a major source for locating material, out of all proportion to its value for obtaining
    38 B71 , but the availability of air makes it the most likely source for domestic, mass-produced heat pumps in Britain. The Department of
    39 B73 interesting to see what inspiration will be drawn from another potential source for indoor lighting --; the high pressure sodium lamp. These lamps
    40 B7M toxic plant secondary compounds. Cellulose represents an important potential energy source for herbivores but the breakdown of cell fibre presents herbivores with difficulties
    41 BP2 system was seen as using the SEMA faults data-base as a source for its knowledge base. 7. Noting that there might be
    42 C89 unaccustomed contact with troops and journalists helped fuel Keane with a source for the alienation that is the hallmark of his pictures. However
    43 C8R fallen for consideration since, and the Hansard litigation remains the source for the existing modus vivendi as between the courts and Parliament. It is
    44 C92 Note that a filament lamp is practically useless as a light source for optical communication. This is because to convey all the information
    45 C97 easy concept to appreciate, but sunlight is the basic energy source for a coral reef's food production. Herbivores are normally split
    46 C97 as refuse removers, these crustaceans also provide a valuable food source for some fish, particularly Mandarins, which are next to impossible to
    47 C9M Beyond that, we've got to assume that the main source for instruments was the same as for everybody else who lived out of
    48 CA1 not easy to locate. Paper stores are the most likely source for small quantities. As it is supplied in bulk for re-processing
    49 CBF close circle of trusted friends and was named as a major source for Andrew Morton's book Diana: Her True Story. He
    50 CBJ to that early grave. James Woodforde, ever a reliable source for the minutiae of late 18th-century life, wrote on 25 January

    Source [DAVIES] Variation in English Words and Phrases (VIEW)

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    #3

    Re: for which


    Dear Tdol,

    Thank you very much for typing so many examples. It's time-consuming!

    Now I see they can be used this way. I hope they are included in dictionaries .

    Have a nice weekend.

    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    It exists- the BNC has 221 examples, though that compares to 4,788 for 'source of'
    Here are some:
    1 A07 religious origin to adopt. But Roman catholic adoption agencies, the source for the majority of children awaiting adoption, are not obliged to
    2 A0C caterer who is topping up need not return to the same source for the top-up. Identify a selection of cutlery distributors, send
    3 A0D to unambiguity, can not be unequivocally accepted as a primary source for Hercule Poirot, the directness of the next reference brooks no
    4 A0D and it can therefore be definitively stated that Agatha Christie's source for the character of Hercule Poirot was Speke, Parot. But
    5 A12 for "of such stuff dreams are made". Another source for dances of character can be found in the sad clown or
    6 A1B notably in the memoirs of Madame de Rémusat (a principal source for Canto 101), this new association with Chalais re-activated his
    7 A4W . Ford has invested £157m to make Dagenham the sole European source for the new lean-burn 2-litre engine for the Sierra and Granada.
    8 A62 about party leaders and political issues, and the most helpful source for making up their minds how to vote. BBC-TV news scored
    9 A62 vote. We asked respondents to assess the usefulness of each source for each purpose by giving it a "mark out of ten"
    10 A6S The rhetorical use they made of anthropologists' ideas as a source for a criticism of the society of their time, especially as
    11 A6S . In The German Ideology Marx had used Tacitus as his source for tribal German society, but by the time of Formen he
    12 ABJ Times remains the voice of American public policy. The best source for its reporters in a foreign land may well be the American
    13 ACP Hopkins is worried that Strieber is turning his experiences into the source for a new religion. As well as the books and the film,
    14 ACR financial ruin to two farmers. Industrial fallout is one suspected source for the contamination, but the farmers in Shuttlewood, near Bolsover
    15 ADC a guide to ethics and etiquette, which is a major source for social history of the age; (3) Stromateis,
    16 ADC the work is by Hippolytus, the document is a major source for early liturgy and is the first text to witness to liturgical
    17 ADH inscriptions. For example, coins provide the fullest and most systematic source for the names and titles of Roman emperors and may sometimes provide
    18 AM4 , had come from the CEGB. The Commission's cited source for this information was Dr P F Chester of the CEGB,
    19 AMH Ltd, discusses the role of the Banks as an important source for exporters --; and importers and outlines the services and assistance available
    20 AP7 diaries and correspondence. Diaries have proved by far the most vivid source for intimate family life in early modern England. When Thomas Turner
    21 APK examples of ideas. This hard backed book is an invaluable source for the amateur photographer who wants to make the break into studio
    22 AT8 to other fuels, oil will remain Japan's major energy source for the rest of this century. The difficulty will be maintaining
    23 AT8 abundant fuel --; coal --; as a "clean" energy source for power generation by gasifying it. At the plant electric power
    24 AYJ professional bodies and so on. All of these may be a valuable source for recruitment. For some jobs you will have to pay for
    25 B07 , and the BNB has certainly lost ground as a selection source for this reason. Nevertheless it is probably still the most effective
    26 B0H previous commentators on British Cabinet government. They are an important source for two reasons: they indicate that the overload problem has been
    27 B0R one of the most remarkable in the language. The primary source for "Kubla Khan" is the book Purchas his Pilgrimage (
    28 B15 of quantitative forecasts. Two departments rely mainly on a single source for their forecasts with perhaps slight alterations to incorporate their own views
    29 B15 consequences …. To use environmental analysis as a special intelligence source for top managers is perhaps the single most common reason why it
    30 B25 we turn later to look at "people" as our source for data we shall consider various forms of observation (such as participant
    31 B25 life and general outlook. Political correspondence can be a vital source for political history, but for specifically sociological purposes there are likely
    32 B25 date after initial publication. The Bibliographic Index is a good source for all sorts of bibliographies and includes many contained in books themselves
    33 B2D . Elsewhere members of the public had experienced odours from one source for over 20 years; needless to say even the most persistent
    34 B2J organic-rich shales are likely to constitute a much more widespread potential source for hydrocarbons --; probably mainly for gas and condensate --; than the
    35 B2P the same pattern as sale. Since Ulpian is the only source for this, conclusions must be limited to late classical law,
    36 B31 its attendant chaff heap. These provided an important winter food source for many species, mainly seed eaters. There is every likelihood
    37 B3D placed on the use of the card catalogue as a major source for locating material, out of all proportion to its value for obtaining
    38 B71 , but the availability of air makes it the most likely source for domestic, mass-produced heat pumps in Britain. The Department of
    39 B73 interesting to see what inspiration will be drawn from another potential source for indoor lighting --; the high pressure sodium lamp. These lamps
    40 B7M toxic plant secondary compounds. Cellulose represents an important potential energy source for herbivores but the breakdown of cell fibre presents herbivores with difficulties
    41 BP2 system was seen as using the SEMA faults data-base as a source for its knowledge base. 7. Noting that there might be
    42 C89 unaccustomed contact with troops and journalists helped fuel Keane with a source for the alienation that is the hallmark of his pictures. However
    43 C8R fallen for consideration since, and the Hansard litigation remains the source for the existing modus vivendi as between the courts and Parliament. It is
    44 C92 Note that a filament lamp is practically useless as a light source for optical communication. This is because to convey all the information
    45 C97 easy concept to appreciate, but sunlight is the basic energy source for a coral reef's food production. Herbivores are normally split
    46 C97 as refuse removers, these crustaceans also provide a valuable food source for some fish, particularly Mandarins, which are next to impossible to
    47 C9M Beyond that, we've got to assume that the main source for instruments was the same as for everybody else who lived out of
    48 CA1 not easy to locate. Paper stores are the most likely source for small quantities. As it is supplied in bulk for re-processing
    49 CBF close circle of trusted friends and was named as a major source for Andrew Morton's book Diana: Her True Story. He
    50 CBJ to that early grave. James Woodforde, ever a reliable source for the minutiae of late 18th-century life, wrote on 25 January

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    I didn't type them- IO searched on the site I quoted and copied and pasted. It is a good site for examples.

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    Oh, I see. Next time if I can't find something in my dictionaries I would surf this site.

    Have a nice weekend.

    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    I didn't type them- IO searched on the site I quoted and copied and pasted. It is a good site for examples.


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    Don't mean to be picky, but I believe in your sentence there should be a comma before "for which" in order to be grammatically correct.

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    Re: for which

    Hi cleung,
    Thank you very much for mentioning it. There isn't a comma in the original sentence.

    Jiang

    Quote Originally Posted by cleung View Post
    Don't mean to be picky, but I believe in your sentence there should be a comma before "for which" in order to be grammatically correct.


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    Hi Jiang,

    You're very welcome. I grew up in China, and I'm also interested in learning good English, perhaps just as much as you're.

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    Cleung, I don't mean to be picky, but the contraction at the end of your sentence doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Cleung, I don't mean to be picky, but the contraction at the end of your sentence doesn't work.
    ... unless you contract the are so much that it disappears entirely:

    I'm also interested in learning good English, perhaps just as much as you.


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