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    Yesterday or today morning

    There is this sentence: "I didn't see Steve yesterday or today morning."
    Context: A friend of mine asks me if I have seen Steve lately. My friend didn't see him yesterday at all, and also haven't seen him today in the morning. My friend asks me if I have seen him at all lately. He/she asks me that at noon or in the afternoon, whichever. I want to say that I didn't see him either yesterday for the whole day or today in the morning, just like my friend.
    In order to convey that, is it okay to respond with "I didn't see Steve yesterday or today morning"? Is there any problem with grammar here? Any ambiguities at all?
    I don't think there is anything wrong with the sentence but I would like to see what you think about it.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Quote Originally Posted by Madness1 View Post
    There Here is this a sentence: "I didn't see Steve yesterday or today this morning."

    Context: A friend of mine asks me if I have seen Steve lately. My friend didn't see him at all yesterday, at all, and also haven't seen him today in the or this morning. My friend asks me if I have seen him at all lately. He/she asks me that this at noon or in the afternoon, whichever. I want to say that I didn't see him either all day yesterday for the whole day or today in the or this morning, just like my friend.

    In order to convey that, is it okay to respond with "I didn't see Steve yesterday or today this morning"? Is there any problem with grammar here? Are there any ambiguities at all?
    I don't think there is anything wrong with the sentence but I would like to see what you think about it.
    You need to learn to use "this morning" when talking about the morning of the day on which you are speaking. We don't use "today morning" at all.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    You need to learn to use "this morning" when talking about the morning of the day on which you are speaking. We don't use "today morning" at all.
    I know it's "this morning", but it is strange to me that you wouldn't use "today morning" at all. I am fairly certain that I have heard people say "today/yesterday/tomorrow/Friday morning" before, and as such I was convinced that you can say both "today/this morning". Are you saying that we can't actually say it? Or is it just considered incorrect or informal?

    Also, the reason my original sentence is not "I didn't see Steve yesterday or this morning" is because it is ambiguous: I think it could be misunderstood that I am only talking about yesterday morning when I really mean all day yesterday and this morning (or today morning).

    And what about these: "I didn't see Steve all day yesterday or this morning", or "I didn't see Steve at all yesterday or this morning".

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    The only place you might hear "today morning" is the Indian subcontinent.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Quote Originally Posted by probus View Post
    The only place you might hear "today morning" is the Indian subcontinent.
    Trust me when I say that people in the UK say such things as well.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Quote Originally Posted by Madness1 View Post
    Trust me when I say that people in the UK say such things as well.
    There are a lot of people from the Indian subcontinent in the UK. Native speakers of international English never say "today morning".
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Quote Originally Posted by Madness1 View Post
    Trust me when I say that people in the UK say such things as well.
    No, they certainly don't. It may be that you've heard non-native speakers say it, but not native speakers. Don't use today morning—it's completety wrong..

    Quote Originally Posted by Madness1 View Post
    Also, the reason my original sentence is not "I didn't see Steve yesterday or this morning" is because it is ambiguous: I think it could be misunderstood that I am only talking about yesterday morning when I really mean all day yesterday and this morning (or today morning).
    Don't worry about this. It is vanishingly unlikely that you would be misunderstood by anyone.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Regardless of what you might have heard, the following are not used in the variants of English that we teach on this forum:

    Today morning
    Today afternoon
    Today evening
    Today night
    Yesterday night

    To refer to the day on which you are speaking, we use "this".

    We use "last night" to refer to the night (or evening) of yesterday. We don't say "last evening/afternoon/morning".

    You can use a day of the week with any time of day:
    Friday morning
    Friday afternoon
    Friday evening
    Friday night
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Last evening is occasionally heard in Canada too.

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    Re: Yesterday or today morning

    Quote Originally Posted by probus View Post
    Last evening is occasionally heard in Canada too.
    I think some Americans use it, too. It doesn't sound particularly odd to me, anyway.
    I am not a teacher.

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