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    Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    With verbs "to study," "live" and "work" if I am saying that the action is still ongoing is it wrong to use the present perfect instead of the continuous?

    1. "I have been learning/studying English for two months."

    2. "I have been working here for two years."

    3. "I have been living here for two years "

    And in questions is the progressive more natural?

    4. "How long have you been learning/studying English"?

    5. "How long have you been living here?"

    6. "How long have you been working here?"

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    With verbs "to study," "live" and "work" if I am saying that the action is still ongoing is it wrong to use the present perfect instead of the continuous?
    It depends on the context of the situation and on the way the speaker views the situation.

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    In 5 and 6, the present perfect is possible with no change in meaning. It doesn't work in 4.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    In 5 and 6, the present perfect is possible with no change in meaning.
    Do you mean in other sentences there is a change in meaning between the present perfect and progressive?

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Well, learning and studying are two different things. (You can do one without doing the other one.)
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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    Do you mean in other sentences there is a change in meaning between the present perfect and progressive?
    If you change question 4 to "How long have you studied English [for]?", there is no way of knowing if you're still studying English. The question could just mean "How long, in your entire life, have you spent on English study?" Using the continuous (progressive) makes it clear you are still studying English.

    In 5 and 6, "How long have you been living/working here?" and "How long have you lived/worked here?" mean the same.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    If you change question 4 to "How long have you studied English [for]?", there is no way of knowing if you're still studying English. The question could just mean "How long, in your entire life, have you spent on English study?" Using the continuous (progressive) makes it clear you are still studying English.

    In 5 and 6, "How long have you been living/working here?" and "How long have you lived/worked here?" mean the same.
    But in case the person who is asking this question knows that the other person is no longer learning English, would it be wrong to use the simple past? "How long did you study English?"

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Well, learning and studying are two different things. (You can do one without doing the other one.)
    Which is correct when talking about languages?

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    But in case if the person who is asking this question knows that the other person is no longer learning English, would it be wrong to use the simple past? "How long did you study English?"
    The simple past would be the only suitable tense if the speaker knows that the listener is no longer studying English.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Live, work, study and learn with the present perfect and progressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    Which is correct when talking about languages?
    It depends on what you want to say. I studied Latin for ten years, but never learnt much.

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