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    There is nothing more I can ask for.

    There is nothing more I can ask for.
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    I'd like to know if "that" is omitted between "more" and "I".

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    Nothing is nothing more that I can ask for.

    There is nothing more that I can ask for.
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    I'd like to know if "that" refers to "nothing more" or "nothing".

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    Re: There is nothing more I can ask for.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishLord View Post
    There is nothing more I can ask for.
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    I'd like to know if "that" is omitted between "more" and "I".
    No. It's fine with or without that.
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    Re: Nothing is nothing more that I can ask for.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishLord View Post
    There is nothing more that I can ask for.
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    I'd like to know if "that" refers to "nothing more" or "nothing".
    In your example, that is a conjunction, not a pronoun. It does not refer to anything.
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    Re: There is nothing more I can ask for.

    It looks very much like a relative pronoun to me.

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    Re: Nothing is nothing more that I can ask for.

    I'd also like to know if "that I can ask for" is a restrictive relative clause.

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    Re: Nothing is nothing more that I can ask for.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishLord View Post
    I'd also like to know if "that I can ask for" is a restrictive relative clause.
    I would say so. that is the prepositional object of for.

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    Re: There is nothing more I can ask for.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    It looks very much like a relative pronoun to me.
    Could be. I said conjunction because I found this in the Google dictionary:

    conjunction

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      introducing a subordinate clause expressing a statement or hypothesis.
      "she said that she was satisfied"


    It looked like the same setup to me, but I'm no pro.
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    Re: Nothing is nothing more that I can ask for.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishLord View Post
    There is nothing more that I can ask for.
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    I'd like to know if "that" refers to "nothing more" or "nothing".
    I'd say that "that" refers to "nothing" and that "more" and "that I can ask for" modify "nothing" separately but conjunctively and restrictively. Compare:

    There is nothing that is more that I can ask for.
    There is nothing which is more which I can ask for.
    There is nothing which is more for which I can ask.

    There is nothing that I can ask for that is more.
    There is nothing which I can ask for which is more.
    There is nothing for which I can ask which is more.
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    Re: Nothing is nothing more that I can ask for.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishLord View Post
    There is nothing more that I can ask for.
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    I'd like to know if "that" refers to "nothing more" or "nothing".

    There is [nothing more (that) I can ask for ___ ].

    No: that" is not a relative pronoun, but an optional subordinator here, functioning as a marker. It's introducing the relative clause "(that) I can ask for", and is the same "that" which introduces declarative content clauses, cf. "I know that he is that ill".

    The relative clause is a modifier in (and hence part of) the nominal "nothing more that I can ask for", functioning as head of the bracketed noun phrase.

    The gap notation '___' , indicates the covert presence of the relativised element, functioning in the relative clause as complement of the preposition "for".

    We understand that you can ask for nothing more.

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