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    GoesStation is offline Moderator
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    Re: For good reason

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    I didn't know that "is covered by clouds" is wrong. Or is it your personal preference?

    In a similar context would it be wrong to use "covered" when talking about "the fog"?
    For example, "the church on the top of the hill was covered by/with fog?" or is it better to say "the church on the top of the hill is hidden by/with fog"?
    "Covered" is better for cases where a more substantial material physically obscures something. For example: The driveway was covered with fallen leaves. Fog and clouds are insubstantial; they can hide something, but we don't usually think of them as covering it.
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    Re: For good reason

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    "Covered" is better for cases where a more substantial material physically obscures something. For example: The driveway was covered with fallen leaves. Fog and clouds are insubstantial; they can hide something, but we don't usually think of them as covering it.
    I see now. Thank you. In your example "covered with fallen leaves", "covered by" would also work as it works in "covered "with/by snow". Right?

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    Re: For good reason

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    I see now. Thank you. In your example "covered with fallen leaves", "covered by" would also work as it works in "covered "with/by snow". Right?
    "With" works better. You could, however, say it was "covered by a blanket of fallen leaves." "By" goes well with a definable item; "with" is suitable for a more diffuse, less well defined substance. I'm kind of shooting in the dark with that last bit (look up the idiom if it's not familiar to you). Jutfrank may have more to say about it.
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    Re: For good reason

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    "with" is suitable for a more diffuse, less well defined substance. .
    But it doesn't work with "fog" in the way I used it in my sentence "covered by/with fog". It should be "hidden by". Or perhaps it's possible to use less defined substance such as "fog" with "with" in another sentence without using "covered by"?

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    Re: For good reason

    You could say something is shrouded by fog.
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    Re: For good reason

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    You could say something is shrouded by fog.
    Or shrouded IN fog.
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    Re: For good reason

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    I didn't know that "is covered by clouds" is wrong
    It isn't wrong. It's just less natural than some alternatives.

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