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    Red face Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    Hello Sir/Ma'am,

    Greeting!

    Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?
    Words that are formed from verbs but don't act as verbs are called verbals.

    I have tried changing the above sentence into simple sentences as follows:

    Active voice: someone forms words from verbs.
    Simple present: words that do not act as verbs.
    Active voice: someone calls words verbals.

    Kindly suggest whether I have written the right sentences? If the sentence is not passive, it will be a simple peasant. Because it has adjective words "formed and called" I identified. If it is a simple present but how?

    Please help.

    Thank you!
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    Re: Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    Are you asking about the meaning of the sentence? Or is your question about grammar?

    You can understand the sentence like this:

    Verbals are:

    a) words which are formed from verbs
    b) words which do not act as verbs

    We call words 'verbals' when they satisfy both conditions.

    Does that answer your question?

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    Re: Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    Thank you, Jutfrank Sir, for your prompt response to my question.


    My question is about grammar.
    Is this sentence of passive voice? Or is it a simple present?


    Let me take this instance "words which are formed from verbs".


    For passive voice, I need an agent or doer as a subject who will act, and that clears my confusion.

    But, If that is a simple present, how can I understand it?

    Thank you!

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    Re: Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    Words that are formed from verbs

    That's passive, yes. You can understand that the agents are the people who use these words. People form these words with their mouths and voices.

    I don't understand your question about simple present, I'm afraid. Sentences can be both passive and simple present, at the same time. The sentence you're asking about is simple present, yes.

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    Re: Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    Quote Originally Posted by nleng View Post
    Hello. Sir/Ma'am, Unnecessary. You're not writing a formal letter.

    Greetings! Unnecessary. You already said "Hello".

    Kindly Please suggest tell me whether I have written the right my sentences are correct? If the sentence is not passive, it will be a is the simple peasant present because it has I have identified the adjectives words "formed and called". I identified. If it is a the simple present, but how?

    Please help. Unnecessary. You have already explained how you want us to help.

    Thank you! Unnecessary. Thank us after we help you, by clicking on the "Thank" button.
    Quote Originally Posted by nleng View Post
    Thank you, Jutfrank, Sir, for your prompt response to my question.

    My question is about grammar. Is this a passive sentence of passive voice? or is it a simple present?

    Let me take this instance For example, "words which are formed from verbs".

    For the passive voice, I it would need an agent or doer as a the subject who will acts , and - that clears would clear up my confusion.

    But no comma here if that is a the simple present, how can I understand it?

    Thank you! Unnecessary.
    Please note my corrections to your posts above. Don't waste time or characters on greetings or thanks or repeating yourself. Don't refer to users here as "Sir". It's overly formal and we're not all male.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    Jusfrank Sir, I've got my answer, that it's a passive sentence.


    And I'm sorry to have confused you with the term "simple present".

    I appreciate your answers and help.

    Thank you!

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    Re: Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    Quote Originally Posted by nleng View Post
    Jusfrank Sir,
    Do not address forum members this way. You can use their member names, but you should never add "sir". It's excessively formal and makes an assumption about their gender that may be incorrect.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Would you help me understand the following sentence, please?

    I'm still awaiting my knighthood. The Queen apparently left me out of her New Year's Honours List again.

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