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    #1

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    Dear teachers,

    I have two questions to ask:

    No.1 Can I say
    a. Apart from that, I have more to say.
    b. In addition to that I have more to say.

    N0.2 After one yera I was also teaching psychology---and _________ I left high school teaching and moved on to community college.
    a. eventually b.ultimately

    If the community college is the college that I'll teach in from the time I moved in then 'ultimately' is correct.
    b. If I might move to another college from the community college then I can only use 'eventually'. Is that right?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.
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    #2

    Re: apart from etc.

    IŽm not a native Jiang, but IŽd say that both sentences in #1 sound strange to my ears...Apart from that, I have no(thing) more to say(at the end of a speech..) and the second sentence sounds a bit redundant,IŽd say ..in addition to that,IŽd also like to say that ...
    With regards to #2 IŽd use ultimately ( sequence of processes ) eventually is used when the idea is an indefinite time...HeŽll understand that eventually..or He eventually understood it...What do you think?

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    #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
    Dear teachers,

    I have two questions to ask:

    No.1 Can I say
    a. Apart from that, I have more to say.
    b. In addition to that I have more to say.

    N0.2 After one yera I was also teaching psychology---and _________ I left high school teaching and moved on to community college.
    a. eventually b.ultimately

    If the community college is the college that I'll teach in from the time I moved in then 'ultimately' is correct.
    b. If I might move to another college from the community college then I can only use 'eventually'. Is that right?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.
    Jiang
    1.a. is not correct. If you something more to say it will not be "apart from" what you've already said. One could say "Apart from that, I have nothing to say."
    1.b. is OK, but it is a bit redundant. If you have more to say it will obviosly be "in addition". "In addition, I would like to say..."

    2. Ultimately is still a problem there because of the high school teaching.
    If you want to use "ultimately" there, try: "and after I left high school teaching, I ultimately moved on to community college." This would normally be said only at the end of one's career. A 30-year old would use "eventually".

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    #4

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    Dear Mike,
    Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I understand No.2.
    I have thought hard of the sentence 'If you something more to say it will not be "apart from" what you've already said' but I don't understand it. I know it is my fault.

    Jiang


    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    1.a. is not correct. If you something more to say it will not be "apart from" what you've already said. One could say "Apart from that, I have nothing to say."
    1.b. is OK, but it is a bit redundant. If you have more to say it will obviosly be "in addition". "In addition, I would like to say..."

    2. Ultimately is still a problem there because of the high school teaching.
    If you want to use "ultimately" there, try: "and after I left high school teaching, I ultimately moved on to community college." This would normally be said only at the end of one's career. A 30-year old would use "eventually".

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    #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
    Dear Mike,
    Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I understand No.2.
    I have thought hard of the sentence 'If you something more to say it will not be "apart from" what you've already said' but I don't understand it. I know it is my fault.

    Jiang
    Not your fault. "Apart from" gives the sense of separation. I hate his tie; apart from that I like his outfit. "In addition" goves the sense of more of the same. I hate his tie; in addition, I don't care much for his suit.

    If one says something and then says more, it is an addition.
    If one says something and then has nothing more to say, it is a separation.

    Is that better?

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    #6

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    Dear Mike

    I understand your explanation this time.
    I think I was confused by a sentence from my dictionary:
    Apart from roses we grow irises.
    According to your explanation I think there is something wrong with the above sentence.

    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Not your fault. "Apart from" gives the sense of separation. I hate his tie; apart from that I like his outfit. "In addition" goves the sense of more of the same. I hate his tie; in addition, I don't care much for his suit.

    If one says something and then says more, it is an addition.
    If one says something and then has nothing more to say, it is a separation.

    Is that better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
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    I understand your explanation this time.
    I think I was confused by a sentence from my dictionary:
    Apart from roses we grow irises.
    According to your explanation I think there is something wrong with the above sentence.

    Jiang
    It's not incorrect; they are different species. I would use "in addition" there, however.

    It would be wrong to say "I grow roses; apart from that I grow more roses."

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    #8

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    Dear Mike,

    Now I see. Many thanks!

    Jiang

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    It's not incorrect; they are different species. I would use "in addition" there, however.

    It would be wrong to say "I grow roses; apart from that I grow more roses."

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    #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post

    Dear Mike,

    Now I see. Many thanks!

    Jiang
    Great!

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