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    Many mistakes on English Daily

    On the main page the correct titles are:

    S - Ancient Chinese Stories [adjective order: time + origin]

    G - Learn Grammar by Example [no need to pluralize 'examples']

    Learn Colloquial Speech by Movie Lines [adjectives don't form plurals
    in English so no need for the 's' on Movie]

    Learn English through Advertisements [not 'by']

    Sample Bank Letters [or 'Sample Letters from a Bank']


    Obviously there's a lot more to the site than the front page so I'd
    recommend you sit down and proof it well. If you can't find a willing
    English teacher, perhaps import the text into Word and do a Grammar check.
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    I got this comment from someone who did a review on my site. Can you please comment on his points ?

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    Re: Many mistakes on English Daily

    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    On the main page the correct titles are:

    S - Ancient Chinese Stories [adjective order: time + origin]

    G - Learn Grammar by Example [no need to pluralize 'examples']

    Learn Colloquial Speech by Movie Lines [adjectives don't form plurals
    in English so no need for the 's' on Movie]

    Learn English through Advertisements [not 'by']

    Sample Bank Letters [or 'Sample Letters from a Bank']


    Obviously there's a lot more to the site than the front page so I'd
    recommend you sit down and proof it well. If you can't find a willing
    English teacher, perhaps import the text into Word and do a Grammar check.
    ***************

    I got this comment from someone who did a review on my site. Can you please comment on his points ?
    It is difficult to comment without seeing the originals. Can you post both versions?

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    It looks like good advice to me. For example, "Ancient Chinese Stories" is correct. "Learn Grammar by Example" or "Learn Grammar by Using Examples" are both good.

    I agree with all of the recommendations.

    Perhaps you could post some of the stuff here so we can review it?

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    All the words he commented are in the main page of my website www.englishdaily626.com

    By the way, we don't need an article for ' Bank ' right ? But he seems to insist on ' a Bank ' instead. But those letters are from different banks after all ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    All the words he commented are in the main page of my website www.englishdaily626.com

    By the way, we don't need an article for ' Bank ' right ? But he seems to insist on ' a Bank ' instead. But those letters are from different banks after all ?
    If the letters are from different banks then I would prefer Sample Letters from Some Banks or Sample Letters from Banks. (I would prefer the first one. Banks could be a person's name.

    BTW, it's usually called the home page, not the main page.

    :)

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    Re:
    • Chinese Ancient Stories

    They are first, Chinese stories and second, ancient stories. Thus, it should be: Ancient Chinese Stories.

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    • Learn Grammar by Examples

    The phrase is learn by example. How about:
    • Learn by Example--English Grammar


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    • Learn Colloquial Speech by Movies Lines

    I would say, "Learn colloquial speech by listening to lines from movies", but that is too long for your purposes. How about:
    • At the Movies--Colloquial Speech

    Do you think that's catchy? :wink:

    Re:
    • Learn English by Advertisements

    The word by doesn't work well there. How about:
    • English in the Marketplace

    Clever, huh? :wink:

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    • Sample letters from Bank

    Better would be:
    • Sample Letters from Banks

    (I changed my mind about that one.)

    What do you think?

    :)

    (I like the story about Uncle Sam. Did you know that they used to use the image of Uncle Sam on enlistment posters?)

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    But his point is that ' movies lines ' is wrong, but when I typed ' movies lines ' in Google search box. I can find many sites using the similar phrase, and I believe he is wrong about it not to have s for a noun used as an adjective. How about " weapons program " ? I came across it many many times at the renowned newspapers.

    Ok, fair enough. Learn English by Advertisements is wrong logically. But he suggests ' through ' advertisements. In fact, ' by ' ' with ' ' through ' are almost the same.

    eg I paid by ( with ) ( through ) cash.

    The only one I sort of agree is ' examples ' :p. There is no need to be plural.

    enlistment posters ? I don't get it :P:P

    To play safe, I think I'd better stick to your suggestions, Ron :) Here it goes - suggestion or suggestions ? As a non-native, we treat it as more than one. My head is spinning now :)

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    Usage isn't always logical. Anyhow, I would use movie lines or lines from movies. (You are right about weapons program, of course.)

    Google isn't 100% dependable. There is quite a bit of misusage. (For example, using its for it's, which occurs often.)

    I don't care for Learn English by Advertisements or the other one either, for that matter. How about "English in Advertisements"? (I like my other suggestion too.)

    We say I paid by check or I paid with cash. (English is a funny language.)

    During World War II there were posters outside of recruitment centers with a picture of Uncle Sam saying, "I want YOU".

    It's suggestions. I made more than one suggestion.

    :)

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    Then to say that ' Colloquial speech in Movie Lines ' is fine, right ?

    My approach to English is right I guess, read good books and imitate good speeches because as a non-native the more we try to analyse the more confused we are. There are always exceptions in a language.

    But this time I just borrowed the wrong phrase :p.

    After years of studying, we still cannot shake off the singular or plural nightmare. This is really frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    Then to say that ' Colloquial speech in Movie Lines ' is fine, right ?
    Yes, that is good.

    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    My approach to English is right I guess, read good books and imitate good speeches because as a non-native the more we try to analyse the more confused we are. There are always exceptions in a language.
    Of course, there is a difference between speeches and speech.

    :wink:

    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    But this time I just borrowed the wrong phrase :p.
    It gave me something to do.

    :wink:

    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    After years of studying, we still cannot shake off the singular or plural nightmare. This is really frustrating.
    You're not doing that badly.

    :)

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