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    #1

    Smile so/such

    I'd like to know how to use SO and SUCH.

    Thanks!

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    #2

    Re: so/such

    Quote Originally Posted by chaves View Post
    I'd like to know how to use SO and SUCH.

    Thanks!
    Both have several uses:

    such (sŭch)
    adj.
      1. Of this kind: a single parent, one of many such people in the neighborhood.
      2. Of a kind specified or implied: a boy such as yourself.
      1. Of a degree or quality indicated: Their anxiety was such that they could not sleep.
      2. Of so extreme a degree or quality: never dreamed of such wealth.
    adv.
    1. To so extreme a degree; so: such beautiful flowers; such a funny character.
    2. Very; especially: She has been in such poor health lately.
    pron.
      1. Such a person or persons or thing or things: was the mayor and as such presided over the council; expected difficulties, and such occurred.
      2. Itself alone or within itself: Money as such will seldom bring total happiness.
    1. Someone or something implied or indicated: Such are the fortunes of war.
    2. Similar things or people; the like: pins, needles, and such.
    idiom:

    such as
    1. For example.
    so1 ()
    adv.
    1. In the condition or manner expressed or indicated; thus: Hold the brush so.
    2. To the amount or degree expressed or understood; to such an extent: She was so weary that she fell.
    3. To a great extent; to such an evident degree: But the idea is so obvious.
    4. Because of the reason given; consequently: She was weary and so fell.
    5. Afterward; then: to the gas station and so home.
    6. In the same way; likewise: You were on time and so was I.
    7. Apparently; well, then. Used in expressing astonishment, disapproval, or sarcasm: So you think you've got troubles?
    8. In truth; indeed: “You aren't right.” “I am so!”
    adj.
    1. True; factual: I wouldn't have told you this if it weren't so.
    2. In good order: Everything on his desk must be exactly so.
    conj. Usage Problem.
    1. With the result or consequence that: He failed to appear, so we went on without him.
    2. In order that: I stayed so I could see you.
    pron.
    Such as has already been suggested or specified; the same: She became a loyal friend and remained so.
    interj.
    Used to express surprise or comprehension: So! You've finished your work at last.
    idioms:

    so as to
    1. In order to: Mail your package early so as to ensure its timely arrival.
    so that
    1. In order that: I stopped so that you could catch up.
    2. With the result or consequence that.
    so what
    1. Used to express contempt or lack of interest.
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    Re: so/such

    Hi, chaves,
    It's easy.
    With nouns following adjectives, you use either such a or so +adjective + a:
    Lily is such a charming girl!
    You have such cute kittens!

    It seems to me, the other phrase is not so common in casual speech.
    This is not so urgent a matter to discuss it now.

    When there is an adjective or an adverb in the final position or when there is no noun, we use so:
    Your new sweater is so cool!
    She sings so sweetly!
    Not so fast, young man!
    It's so wonderful!
    So wonderful!

    Regards


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    Re: so/such

    Oh, I'm a bit late! Ok, it won't hurt, will it?

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    Re: so/such

    Not at all.

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    #6

    Re: so/such

    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    Hi, chaves,
    It's easy.
    With nouns following adjectives, you use either such a or so +adjective + a:
    Lily is such a charming girl!
    You have such cute kittens!

    It seems to me, the other phrase is not so common in casual speech.
    This is not so urgent a matter [as] to discuss it now.

    When there is an adjective or an adverb in the final position or when there is no noun, we use so:
    Your new sweater is so cool!
    She sings so sweetly!
    Not so fast, young man!
    It's so wonderful!
    So wonderful!

    Regards
    I couldn't have put it so succinctly myself (as you could probably have guessed )

    In the sentence I've queried, I'd normally expect the as (as marked). I think I have met it without, but I'd always include the as myself.

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