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    Post confusing passive

    How is actually the passive voice of these 3 sentences? :
    - He is having the workers install the pool
    - MY uncle was used to smoking a number of cigarettes
    - Why don't you tell me those?
    Those 3 sentences make me really confused..

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    Re: confusing passive

    Quote Originally Posted by jaL_16 View Post
    How is actually the passive voice of these 3 sentences? :
    - He is having the workers install the pool
    - MY uncle was used to smoking a number of cigarettes
    - Why don't you tell me those?
    Those 3 sentences make me really confused..
    Your first sentence doesn't seem correct to me though I'll try to write it in the passive: 1. The pool is being installed by the workers or The workers are having the pool to be installed. I'm not sure of the second one. 2. A number of cigarettes were used to be smoked by my uncle. 3. Why wasn't I told about those things?

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    Re: confusing passive

    hmm, thank you so much for your reply..

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    Re: confusing passive

    Quote Originally Posted by jaL_16 View Post
    How is actually the passive voice of these 3 sentences? :
    - He is having the workers install the pool
    - MY uncle was used to smoking a number of cigarettes
    - Why don't you tell me those?
    Those 3 sentences make me really confused..
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Smith View Post
    Your first sentence doesn't seem correct to me though I'll try to write it in the passive: 1. The pool is being installed by the workers or The workers are having the pool to be installed. I'm not sure of the second one. 2. A number of cigarettes were used to be smoked by my uncle. 3. Why wasn't I told about those things?
    The first sentence is OK. I'd put it in the passive by making the more immediate of the two objects into a subject:

    The workers are being called in/required to install the pool. (You're right to be uncertain about your second version, Harry. ) Your teacher may not accept this, jaL_16, as I've supplied a new verb; but my reason for doing that is that you can't put 'have' into the passive in this context: 'the workers are being had to install the pool' is just wrong.

    The uncle/cigarettes one is very odd; if you wanted to make the cigarettes the subject of a sentence, you'd normally say something like '20 cigarettes was my uncle's daily quota.' But there's no passive there. Harry's version (without the cut&paste typo - no 'were') is acceptable (although it's very odd - because you normally wouldn't use a passive at all).

    Harry's version of 3 is good; At a first reading, I couldn't make any sense of the original - the verb is in a confusing tense (Harry's made it past, which makes sense).

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    Re: confusing passive

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    The first sentence is OK. I'd put it in the passive by making the more immediate of the two objects into a subject:

    The workers are being called in/required to install the pool. (You're right to be uncertain about your second version, Harry. ) Your teacher may not accept this, jaL_16, as I've supplied a new verb; but my reason for doing that is that you can't put 'have' into the passive in this context: 'the workers are being had to install the pool' is just wrong.

    The uncle/cigarettes one is very odd; if you wanted to make the cigarettes the subject of a sentence, you'd normally say something like '20 cigarettes was my uncle's daily quota.' But there's no passive there. Harry's version (without the cut&paste typo - no 'were') is acceptable (although it's very odd - because you normally wouldn't use a passive at all).

    Harry's version of 3 is good; At a first reading, I couldn't make any sense of the original - the verb is in a confusing tense (Harry's made it past, which makes sense).

    b
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