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    Question Question Words for Ordinal Numbers

    Dear Teachers,

    During a conversation sometimes one speaker may say something very quickly, or he may not pronounce a few words of a statement very clearly. To keep the conversation going, other speakers usually have to ask questions requesting repetition or clarification (e. g., "Sorry.", "When?", "How long?", etc.).

    In the following examples, however, I've failed to find an appropriate response to request repetition and clarification:

    (Notes: The underlined words are those not pronounced clearly during the conversation).

    1. Mr. and Mrs. Brown have four children, and Tim Brown is their second youngest son.
    2. Vietnam has become the 150th member of the WTO since November 2006.

    I've identified this EFL learner's problem as "Question Words for Ordinal Number", which to the best of my knowledge has not been dealt with in any traditional English grammar book. I'd be most grateful if any of you could kindly give a clue to the solution.

    Sincerely,

    Anne Trinh

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    Re: Question Words for Ordinal Numbers

    1. Did you say 'the youngest?'

    2. Sorry, what position was that?

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    Re: Question Words for Ordinal Numbers

    I don't think there's a steraightforward question for this type of thing- as you can see from the examples above, we would ask in different ways. You might ask 'where does he come in the family', but that would worrk for the Vietnam example.

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    Dear Teachers (Tdol & Curmudgeon);

    Thank you very much for your replies. Later on if you happen to find any general grammar rules (or question forms) applicable to these cases please kindly come back and advise. Meanwhile I duly noted the examples you kindly provided with many thanks.

    Best regards,

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    Re: Question Words for Ordinal Numbers

    We've had similar quedstions before; I remember someone asking what question would produce the answer 'Bill Clinton was the 42nd president of the United States' and people has similar problems.
    Last edited by Tdol; 23-Jan-2007 at 06:36.

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    Re: Question Words for Ordinal Numbers

    Very informally, I've heard people say either 'the whichth?' or 'the whatth?' - but these are far from standard; in fact, people using them usually use some kind of visual quotation marks (not necessarily miming the marks, but signifying in some way - by facial expression - that they're being a bit naughty).

    With something like 'Bill Clinton was the 42nd president of the United States' the person who didn't hear clearly might say 'What was that number?' (certainly not 'What was that ordinal?)

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    Dear Teachers (Tdol & Bobk);

    Thank you very much again for your additional info and replies.

    With my best regards,

    Anne

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    Re: Question Words for Ordinal Numbers

    You're welcome, Anne.

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