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    "everyone" separated or not

    I feel puzzled with the following expressions. Could you tell me which are grammatically correct? which are acceptale in spoken English?

    Both of you
    Both you
    Both of the brothers
    both the brothers
    both brothers
    the both brothers

    seems i am in a maze

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    Re: "everyone" separated or not

    Quote Originally Posted by gxiang View Post
    I feel puzzled with the following expressions. Could you tell me which are grammatically correct? which are acceptale in spoken English?
    Both of you
    Both you
    Both of the brothers
    both the brothers
    both brothers
    the both brothers
    seems i am in a maze
    'Both you' is not acceptable as a free-standing noun phrase, but it is a possible collocation in contexts such as 'both you and your friends are always welcome'.

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    Re: "everyone" separated or not

    'Both you' is not acceptable as a free-standing noun phrase
    I agree with Bobk,but you can say for example :
    "you both want to drive that car" (not both you)

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    Re: "everyone" separated or not

    Additionally,

    These are the same. 'of' has been omitted:
    Both of the brothers
    Both the brothers

    The difference between these is specificity.
    Both the brothers <predviuosly mentioned or about to be defined>
    Both brothers

    The second one below is odd (). Both means two.
    Both of you <'you' is plural, as in you two>
    Both you and Sam

    This one is not possible. A pronoun cannot be modified by a determiner, but a noun phrase can be; e.g., The both of us:
    the both brothers <ungrammatical>
    the brothers both <grammatical; used for emphasis>

    The word both has three functions:
    1.Adjective: I want both cookies.
    2. Conjunction: I am both tired and lazy.
    3. Pronoun: Both of us

    All the best.

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    Re: "everyone" separated or not

    I am out of the maze now
    THANK you so much for the clear and quick explanation.

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    Re: "everyone" separated or not

    You're welcome, gxiang.

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