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    Bernstein

    Could you please to explain me the English phonetic of the name Bernstein (the famous Watergate's journalist). Actually, the name is German, so I suppose that "st" is pronounced like "sht". Am I right?
    Thank you.

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    Re: Bernstein

    Quote Originally Posted by meliss View Post
    Could you please to explain me the English phonetic of the name Bernstein (the famous Watergate's journalist). Actually, the name is German, so I suppose that "st" is pronounced like "sht". Am I right?
    Thank you.
    BE /staın/

    AmE /sti:n/ - which is, I think, how he and people he knew pronounced it

    No English dialect, as far as I know, gives the first syllable anything approximating the German of the 'er'.

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    An afterthought re German pronunciation. There are people who make a Big Thing of pronouncing foreign names (in the world of music, though not in the world of football ) according to the original (foreign language). This is a dangerous thing - they sometimes make ridiculous mistakes.

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    Re: Bernstein

    So, it's "s" like in "stone" not like "sht"?

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    Re: Bernstein

    It was in the film!

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    Re: Bernstein

    I haven't seen it (don't forget, I am from Ukraine, we'd entered your world just 15 years ago). Just answer my question, please!

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    Re: Bernstein

    Sorry, Meliss. My intonation did answer the question, but you didn't hear that: 'It was in the film'. (I mentioned the film because that's my source for knowledge about AmE pronunciation of this particular name. It was called All the President's Men - which is probably available on DVD; so you could hear for yourself!)

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    Re: Bernstein

    Yes, maybe. But now I'd like to know (sorry, so stupid I am), is there the sound [ʃ] or not?
    Thank you for your patience.

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    Re: Bernstein

    Quote Originally Posted by meliss View Post
    Yes, maybe. But now I'd like to know (sorry, so stupid I am), is there the sound [ʃ] or not?
    Thank you for your patience.
    No, there's no [ʃ] - although maybe his Jewish grandmother, who wants him to remember his heritage, says it properly.

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    Re: Bernstein

    BERN-steen.

    That's how it was pronounced in the film, and by the media when the story was unfolding.

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    Re: Bernstein

    Quote Originally Posted by meliss View Post
    So, it's "s" like in "stone" not like "sht"?
    Right. burn + s-teen. There isn't a sh sound.

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