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    #1

    also don't know

    I don't know how to operate this machine.
    I also don't know how to operate this machine.
    The response is wrong. It should be I don't know, either.

    I would like to know why I cannot say, "I also don't know ... "

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    #2

    Re: also don't know

    Where does the sentence come from?


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    #3

    Re: also don't know

    Hi,
    It seems to me you can say so.

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    #4

    Re: also don't know

    I guess if you put the stress on 'also' you could say that. I'm not sure.

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    #5

    Re: also don't know

    I don't like durian. (#1)
    I also don't like durian. (incorrect) #2
    I don't like durian, either. (correct) #3

    I don't know how to operate the machine. #4
    I also don't know how to operate the machine. #5
    I don't know how to operate the machine, either. #6

    The first three sentences are structurally the same as the last three. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    I know #2 is the wrong response to #1.
    So, logically, #5 is the wrong response to #4.

    Is my conclusion logical? If so, why is #5 the wrong response to #4?

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    #6

    Re: also don't know

    Quote Originally Posted by kohyoongliat View Post
    I don't like durian. (#1)
    I also don't like durian. (incorrect) #2
    I don't like durian, either. (correct) #3
    I don't know how to operate the machine. #4
    I also don't know how to operate the machine. #5
    I don't know how to operate the machine, either. #6

    The first three sentences are structurally the same as the last three. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    I know #2 is the wrong response to #1.
    So, logically, #5 is the wrong response to #4.
    Is my conclusion logical? If so, why is #5 the wrong response to #4?
    Your conclusion is logical. So, if you know why #2 is the wrong answer to #1, you should know why #5 is the wrong answer to #4, no? Is my conclusion logical? .......That was me being silly, Kohyoongliat.
    I know that #6 is correct-of that I'm sure and I would prefer it to #5 but I don't see why #5 is totally wrong.

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    Re: also don't know

    Thank you for the examples. (Should 'durian' be durians?)

    The Standard rule, I believe, is that not...either is negative, and also is affirmative.

    Affirmative
    I like durian.
    I also like durian.

    Negative
    I don't like durian.
    I also don't like durian.
    I don't like durian, either.

    Note that, "I also don't" is standard colloquial usage. The test you're taking is based on Standard (formal) English.

    All the best.


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    #8

    Re: also don't know

    No, indeed, I've just consulted a couple of books -also can't be used in the negative.
    Still it doesn't jar on my ear and I suspect the mistake is common enough to be raised to acceptable usage in colloquial speach.


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    #9

    Re: also don't know

    Oh,
    I haven't seen Casi's post. So my ears don't fail me.

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    #10

    Re: also don't know

    I haven't seen Casi's post.
    But your eyes do!

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