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    Would

    Hi,
    “ Myer’s parents are British, which probably accounts for his ability – he would have grown up with the sounds around him.”
    It seems I’ve never seen such (a?) usage of would. Could you please enlighten me?
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    Re: Would

    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    Hi,
    “ Myer’s parents are British, which probably accounts for his ability – he would have grown up with the sounds around him.”
    It seems I’ve never seen such (a?) usage of would. Could you please enlighten me?
    TIA
    Hi!
    I know you want a native speaker to answer you. But I think I have come across a sentence like this in one of my grammar books. So would have done
    is used when we imagine a situation or an action in the past.

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    Re: Would

    Hi Humble

    I'd explain it this way: The word 'would' continues and clarifies the 'probably' part of the sentence. The only thing the speaker knows as a fact is that Myer's parents are British. The rest of the sentence is an assumption or theory about what was probably true in the past.


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    Re: Would

    Thank you both.
    Harry,
    I guess what you say refers to conditionals, which is not the case here.
    Philly,
    That’s just what I thought. You’ve helped me realize it’s “They will have gone to bed”-type of certainty transferred to the past.

    Regards

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    Re: Would

    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    “They will have gone to bed”-type of certainty transferred to the past.
    Yup.

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    Re: Would

    Hi, Hunble!
    What do you think of the sentences given below?
    1.You helped me a lot. I don't know what I would have done.
    2. I didn't go to the party though I was invited. I wouldn't have enjoyed it.


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    Re: Would

    Harry,
    Your sentences refer to Conditional III – passed situations that did not happen (unreal passed situations).
    1. I don’t know what I would have done if you hadn’t helped me.
    2. If I had gone to the party, I wouldn’t have enjoyed it.

    In the original sentence the speaker expresses his certainty – he is nearly 100% sure Myer “grew up with the sounds around him”.
    I think he could as well say “ he must have grown up with the sounds around him.”
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    Re: Would

    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    Harry,
    Your sentences refer to Conditional III – passed situations that did not happen (unreal passed situations).
    1. I don’t know what I would have done if you hadn’t helped me.
    2. If I had gone to the party, I wouldn’t have enjoyed it.

    In the original sentence the speaker expresses his certainty – he is nearly 100% sure Myer “grew up with the sounds around him”.
    I think he could as well say “ he must have grown up with the sounds around him.”
    Regards
    Yes. I think "he must have grown up with the sounds around him" makes it easier to understand on the one hand and on the other it shows that the speaker is 100% sure of it. But I think we could say like this: He is more likely to have grown up with the sounds around him."


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    Mmm, it seems to me likely usually refers to the future, but I must make sure.

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    Re: Would

    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    Mmm, it seems to me likely usually refers to the future, but I must make sure.
    Yes, I know. It's mostly used in future sentences. I just wanted to say it was more likely.

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