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    in a garden Vs. on a pitch

    I am confused about how to use in/on for a small area/place like garden, pitch, field etc. From Practical English Usage (Michael Swan) book, we use on for position on a surface and in for position inside large areas, and in three-dimensional space (when something is surrounded on all sides).

    Why do we use in for a garden and on fora pitch?

    Thank you in advance,

    Siregar

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    Re: in a garden Vs. on a pitch

    Quote Originally Posted by Siregar View Post
    I am confused about how to use in/on for a small area/place like garden, pitch, field etc. From Practical English Usage (Michael Swan) book, we use on for position on a surface and in for position inside large areas, and in three-dimensional space (when something is surrounded on all sides).

    Why do we use in for a garden and on fora pitch?

    Thank you in advance,

    Siregar
    Hmm, it's hard to explain but I will try it.

    You are in a garden (you are in it. Other examples are: in a house, in a wood etc.)
    You are on a pitch (you are on sth. Other examples are: on the roof, on the mountain etc.)

    So you are on a pitch but in a stadium.

    I hope you understand what I mean.

    Best wishes,
    Dany

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    Re: in a garden Vs. on a pitch

    Quote Originally Posted by Dany View Post
    Hmm, it's hard to explain but I will try it.

    You are in a garden (you are in it. Other examples are: in a house, in a wood etc.)
    You are on a pitch (you are on sth. Other examples are: on the roof, on the mountain etc.)

    So you are on a pitch but in a stadium.

    I hope you understand what I mean.

    Best wishes,
    Dany
    (the pitch/stadium example is very good).

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    Re: in a garden Vs. on a pitch

    Quote Originally Posted by Dany View Post
    Hmm, it's hard to explain but I will try it.

    You are in a garden (you are in it. Other examples are: in a house, in a wood etc.)
    You are on a pitch (you are on sth. Other examples are: on the roof, on the mountain etc.)

    So you are on a pitch but in a stadium.

    I hope you understand what I mean.

    Best wishes,
    Dany
    I see! A garden means here like 'a room', not only the grass-field. That's why we use 'in'.

    I have thought about this problem for a couple days, but I couldn't find the answer. Thank you very much, Dany.

    Warm regards,

    Siregar

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    Re: in a garden Vs. on a pitch

    ...And if you look again at Swan, Siregar, you'll see all these examples fit his rule:

    2-dimensional: on the lawn, on the pitch, on the shelf
    3-dimensional: in the garden, in the stadium

    Swan also says 'in for position inside large areas: so 'on the lawn' but 'in the middle of the lawn'

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    Re: in a garden Vs. on a pitch

    I misunderstood the definition of a garden. I thought, a garden is only the surface of ground covered by grass (it means a garden = 2-dimensional). That's why I kept thinking why we don't use 'on' for a garden.

    Your examples especially using 'lawn' for both 'in' and 'on' are excellent.

    Thank you BobK for your explanations.

    Regards,

    Siregar

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