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    assumption based on

    It is an assumption based on what most assumptions are based on.



    I know every word in this sentence but I can't grasp as a whole.

    Coud you explain what does this sentence mean?

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    Re: assumption based on

    Hi
    I would say it means the assumption is based on incomplete information.

    If the speaker had all the information he needed, he wouldn't need to make an assumption -- he could make a statement of fact.

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    Re: assumption based on

    Say:
    Could you explain what this sentence means?


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    Re: assumption based on

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    Say:
    Could you explain what this sentence means?
    Thanks for your correction.

    Could you tell me why it is wrong?
    Last edited by user_gary; 03-Apr-2007 at 06:03.

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    Re: assumption based on

    Re:
    Could you explain what does this sentence mean?
    You have mixed up two sentences.
    1. Could you explain what this sentence means?
    2. What does this sentence mean?
    Either makes sense by itself, but together they don't make sense.

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    Re: assumption based on

    Quote Originally Posted by Philly View Post
    Hi
    I would say it means the assumption is based on incomplete information.

    If the speaker had all the information he needed, he wouldn't need to make an assumption -- he could make a statement of fact.
    so, I understood it like this (It is an assumption from which all other assumption are made)

    Am I right?

    If wrong, please explain me again.

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    Re: assumption based on

    Quote Originally Posted by user_gary View Post
    so, I understood it like this (It is an assumption from which all other assumption are made)

    Am I right?

    If wrong, please explain me again.
    No, you are not right, and yes, I will explain it to you again.
    An assumption is a conclusion about something made from incomplete information. People make assumptions about things because they don't have complete information. Those assumptions are usually based on their experiences with similar matters.
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    Re: assumption based on

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    No, you are not right, and yes, I will explain it to you again.
    An assumption is a conclusion about something made from incomplete information. People make assumptions about things because they don't have complete information. Those assumptions are usually based on their experiences with similar matters.
    ~R
    Thank you.

    Most assumptions are based on a lack of facts; this assumption is also based on a lack of facts.

    Is this right?

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    Re: assumption based on

    Hi Gary
    .
    In addition to what Ron has written, here are a few more thoughts:
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    Assumptions and facts are two different things. Assumptions can be based on facts OR possibly on other assumptions. Either way, an assumption is based on incomplete (or insufficient) factual information. An assumption is something that you only think might be a fact.
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    If you don't know something is a fact, you might make a statement based on 1) facts known about the situation and 2) any other facts which seem applicable to the current situation. You use what you know in order to draw a conclusion/make an assumption about something else.
    .
    For example, here is an assumption that someone in this forum might make:
    Philly is a man.
    The assumption above might be based on the following facts:
    Fact 1: There is a forum member who uses the name "Philly".
    Fact 2: 'Philip' is a man's name.
    Fact 3: You know from experience that people often have nicknames which end with 'y' and are similar to their "official" names.
    .
    The statement "Philly is a man" is an assumption based on facts, however you cannot be sure that all of the facts actually apply. Although the assumption might seem logical, you cannot be sure that it's true. When you make an assumption, you draw a conclusion based on facts and general knowledge.
    .
    Now I'll give you a few additional facts:
    Fact 4: 'Phillis' is a woman's name.
    Fact 5: 'Phillips' is a surname.
    Fact 6: "Philly" is a nickname for Philadelphia, a city in the US.
    Fact 7: The word 'filly' is sometimes used to mean 'young girl or woman'
    .
    The original assumption seemed fairly probable based on only the first three facts, but that information was not enough to be sure. Now we have additional information, and clearly the first three facts were insufficient to make any assumption about Philly's gender. Now it's difficult to make any assumption at all, isn't it?
    .
    There is still not enough information about Philly to say with certainty that she is a man. (By the way, would you care to make any assumptions based on the wording of my last sentence?)
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    Re: assumption based on

    Quote Originally Posted by Philly View Post
    Hi Gary
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    In addition to what Ron has written, here are a few more thoughts:
    .
    Assumptions and facts are two different things. Assumptions can be based on facts OR possibly on other assumptions. Either way, an assumption is based on incomplete (or insufficient) factual information. An assumption is something that you only think might be a fact.
    .
    If you don't know something is a fact, you might make a statement based on 1) facts known about the situation and 2) any other facts which seem applicable to the current situation. You use what you know in order to draw a conclusion/make an assumption about something else.
    .
    For example, here is an assumption that someone in this forum might make:
    Philly is a man.
    The assumption above might be based on the following facts:
    Fact 1: There is a forum member who uses the name "Philly".
    Fact 2: 'Philip' is a man's name.
    Fact 3: You know from experience that people often have nicknames which end with 'y' and are similar to their "official" names.
    .
    The statement "Philly is a man" is an assumption based on facts, however you cannot be sure that all of the facts actually apply. Although the assumption might seem logical, you cannot be sure that it's true. When you make an assumption, you draw a conclusion based on facts and general knowledge.
    .
    Now I'll give you a few additional facts:
    Fact 4: 'Phillis' is a woman's name.
    Fact 5: 'Phillips' is a surname.
    Fact 6: "Philly" is a nickname for Philadelphia, a city in the US.
    Fact 7: The word 'filly' is sometimes used to mean 'young girl or woman'
    .
    The original assumption seemed fairly probable based on only the first three facts, but that information was not enough to be sure. Now we have additional information, and clearly the first three facts were insufficient to make any assumption about Philly's gender. Now it's difficult to make any assumption at all, isn't it?
    .
    There is still not enough information about Philly to say with certainty that she is a man. (By the way, would you care to make any assumptions based on the wording of my last sentence?)
    .
    So Philly can you provide more information about your name? BTW it is a good way of explaining the word "assumption".

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