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    This is not a ballpen. This is a stationery product.
    What do you call this?


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    Re: What do you call this?

    The second image is a propelling pencil.

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    Re: What do you call this?

    In AmE, it's a mechanical pencil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    The second image is a propelling pencil.
    I think nowadays the mechanical one would be more appropriate as the newer models don't always work with the propelling movement. You just press on the top of the pencil to make the lead go out.

    Of course, the one in the picture is probably a propelling one, from what I can see.

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    Re: What do you call this?

    Quote Originally Posted by queenbu View Post
    I think nowadays the mechanical one would be more appropriate as the newer models don't always work with the propelling movement. You just press on the top of the pencil to make the lead go out.

    Of course, the one in the picture is probably a propelling one, from what I can see.
    I think you're interpreting 'propelling' as meaning 'using a rotational motion' (understandably, as propellers on aircraft do). But propelling just means 'pushing forward or out'. So 'propelling pencil' works for any sort of mechanism.

    'Mechanical pencil' would be understood by a sympathetic native speaker of BE, but it's not BE.

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    PS On second thoughts, I think I may have seen 'mechanical pencil' in a stationery catalogue (which tries to use 'International English'; they probably call it a "catalog", come to that ).
    Last edited by BobK; 05-Apr-2007 at 11:30. Reason: PS added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    I think you're interpreting 'propelling' as meaning 'using a rotational motion' (understandably, as propellers on aircraft do). But propelling just means 'pushing forward or out'. So 'propelling pencil' works for any sort of mechanism.

    'Mechanical pencil' would be understood by a sympathetic native speaker of BE, but it's not BE.

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    PS On second thoughts, I think I may have seen 'mechanical pencil' in a stationery catalogue (which tries to use 'International English'; they probably call it a "catalog", come to that ).
    Thanks again, BobK. You're very understanding and patient! What about the picture on top? Can you see what it is? Or wasn't that part of the question? I guess not. - q

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    I think you're interpreting 'propelling' as meaning 'using a rotational motion' (understandably, as propellers on aircraft do). But propelling just means 'pushing forward or out'. So 'propelling pencil' works for any sort of mechanism.

    'Mechanical pencil' would be understood by a sympathetic native speaker of BE, but it's not BE.

    b

    PS On second thoughts, I think I may have seen 'mechanical pencil' in a stationery catalogue (which tries to use 'International English'; they probably call it a "catalog", come to that ).
    Hello Bobk!
    Second one is called as Micro tip pencil ,which is used to draw the engineering drawings.The person who uses this pencil is called as Draftsman.
    Am I right?


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    Re: What do you call this?

    Thank you all for your replies.
    I have never imagined that the second one is that high-tech tool.
    I've thought the first one and the second one are the same thing.
    They are called mechanical pencils', but if their tops move with rotation,
    they are called propelling pencils.
    Is this right?

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    Re: What do you call this?

    Well, peppy_man, according to the above replies, mechanical pencil is AmE and propelling pencil is BrE, with or without rotation movements, but mechanical pencil may be understood even by the English. Hope I have summed it up well!


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    Thanks a lot, queenbu!

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