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    Got vs. Gotten

    Usually I'd say "have got" instead of "have gotten", however "had gotten" sounds better to me than "had got". Is this normal, is there a difference or is my mind all messed up again?

    Thanks in advance.


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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Hi,
    if I'm not wrong..
    both of them have the same meaning...
    have got - british
    have gotten - american

    pls, correct me in case of any mistake..

    thanks

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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by elisonlima View Post
    Hi,
    if I'm not wrong..
    both of them have the same meaning...
    have got - british
    have gotten - american

    pls, correct me in case of any mistake..

    thanks
    Yes Gotten (get got gotten) is american slang, common in spoken conversation. It is considered informal and not used in official texts, similar example is Dove (past for dive)..

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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by anupumh View Post
    Yes Gotten (get got gotten) is american slang (what?), common in spoken conversation. It is considered informal and not used in official texts, similar example is Dove (past for dive)..
    Yes. I also would avoid it.


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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by anupumh View Post
    Yes Gotten (get got gotten) is american slang, common in spoken conversation. It is considered informal and not used in official texts, similar example is Dove (past for dive)..
    The past participle is "gotten" in American English. It's not American slang. It's correct American English.

    We stick with "got" for the semi-modal "have got", as in, "We've got to get this thing up and running". Or for the prounciation student, "We've gotta get this thing up -n- running.

    gotta - a - represents schwa
    -n- 'a' is a silent schwa, and "d" is dropped - "d" deletion, as in Rock -n- Roll and R -n- B.

    That's how I teach Taro to speak, and he needs to learn to speak that way.

    Last edited by PROESL; 15-Sep-2009 at 03:50.


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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post
    Yes. I also would avoid it.

    Using "gotten" as the past participle is correct. It's not at all wrong. It's not slang. It's not wrong even a little bit. It's correct. Don't avoid it; use it if you're going to speak American English. If not, then take the British English route and adapt to British English in all ways when you speak and write English.
    Last edited by PROESL; 15-Sep-2009 at 04:02.


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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by anupumh View Post
    Yes Gotten (get got gotten) is american slang, common in spoken conversation. It is considered informal and not used in official texts, similar example is Dove (past for dive)..
    American slang

    Punctuation and capitalization are important.



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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by acdcfan View Post
    Usually I'd say "have got" instead of "have gotten", however "had gotten" sounds better to me than "had got". Is this normal, is there a difference or is my mind all messed up again?

    Thanks in advance.
    It sounds better because it's correct. If you want to learn British style English, or Commonwealth English, then use "got", but then you'll have to adapt to British English in all other ways. If your aim is to use American style English, then use "gotten", ən' then yər all set.



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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by elisonlima View Post
    Hi,
    if I'm not wrong..
    both of them have the same meaning...
    have got - british
    have gotten - american

    pls, correct me in case of any mistake..

    thanks
    You are correct.


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    Re: Got vs. Gotten

    Quote Originally Posted by anupumh View Post
    Yes Gotten (get got gotten) is american slang, common in spoken conversation. It is considered informal and not used in official texts, similar example is Dove (past for dive)..
    Gotten is not slang, it's the original strong verb form for "got" in the English language. It's the Brits who have been innovative in abridging it to "got." It is perfectly correct, and nothing to be ashamed of. It is also used in official contexts. You seem to imagine British English to be the original, and AmE to be an offshoot. This is a geographical confusion. Both trace their lineage directly back to Middle English, and American English has been in every way more conservative, closer to the original forms spoken from the 13th to 16th centuries than any modern British English form.

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