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    Dear teachers,

    I have two questions to ask:

    No.1
    It was for two thousand years "taken for granted" as "obvious" that a heavy weight must fall faster than a light one.
    Could you please tell me if "take something for granted as " a phrase? I can't find it in my dictionary.

    No.2
    Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern, makes it easier for us to think the same way again.
    I think there is a grammatical mistake---- which is the subject of 'makes'?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
    Dear teachers,

    I have two questions to ask:

    No.1
    It was for two thousand years "taken for granted" as "obvious" that a heavy weight must fall faster than a light one.
    Could you please tell me if "take something for granted as " a phrase? I can't find it in my dictionary.

    No.2
    Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern, makes it easier for us to think the same way again.
    I think there is a grammatical mistake---- which is the subject of 'makes'?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
    1. Yes, 'take something for granted' is a phrase. It has two main meanings: accept uncritically (as in this case), and accept without gratitude on the assumption that a service is only to be expected ('She should stop doing the housework - he'd soon realize how much he takes her for granted.')

    2. 'Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern, it makes it easier for us to think the same way again.'

    Some people would say that the subject is 'time'; I frequently hear things like 'Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern makes it easier for us to think the same way again' [no comma], but it seems to me that this shows lazy thinking; in that case, the thing that 'makes it easier' is the fact of having added one more time to the repeated thought-pattern, not the time itself.

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    Re: take for granted etc.

    Dear BobK,
    Thank you very much for your explanation.
    No.1
    There is an 'as' after 'take for granted'. Does it mean I can say 'to take something granted as....?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.
    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    1. Yes, 'take something for granted' is a phrase. It has two main meanings: accept uncritically (as in this case), and accept without gratitude on the assumption that a service is only to be expected ('She should stop doing the housework - he'd soon realize how much he takes her for granted.')

    2. 'Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern, it makes it easier for us to think the same way again.'

    Some people would say that the subject is 'time'; I frequently hear things like 'Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern makes it easier for us to think the same way again' [no comma], but it seems to me that this shows lazy thinking; in that case, the thing that 'makes it easier' is the fact of having added one more time to the repeated thought-pattern, not the time itself.

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    Re: take for granted etc.

    Dear BobK,
    Thank you very much for your explanation.
    No.1
    There is an 'as' after 'take for granted'. Does it mean we can say ' to take something for granted as...'?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.
    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    1. Yes, 'take something for granted' is a phrase. It has two main meanings: accept uncritically (as in this case), and accept without gratitude on the assumption that a service is only to be expected ('She should stop doing the housework - he'd soon realize how much he takes her for granted.')

    2. 'Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern, it makes it easier for us to think the same way again.'

    Some people would say that the subject is 'time'; I frequently hear things like 'Every time we think along a particular thought-pattern makes it easier for us to think the same way again' [no comma], but it seems to me that this shows lazy thinking; in that case, the thing that 'makes it easier' is the fact of having added one more time to the repeated thought-pattern, not the time itself.

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    Re: take for granted etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
    Dear BobK,
    Thank you very much for your explanation.
    No.1
    There is an 'as' after 'take for granted'. Does it mean we can say ' to take something for granted as...'?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.
    Jiang
    - in this case "taken for granted as obvious"; you could express this more briefly as 'taken for granted' or 'regarded as obvious'. In the longer version, the words "as obvious" don't add much to the meaning.

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    Dear BobK,
    Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I see.

    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    - in this case "taken for granted as obvious"; you could express this more briefly as 'taken for granted' or 'regarded as obvious'. In the longer version, the words "as obvious" don't add much to the meaning.

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