4 or 4th

[whl626]

Are you free the weekend of November 4 ?

How about ' 4th ' ?

 

[RonBee]

Are you free the weekend of November 4 ?

How about ' 4th ' ?

The second one, 4th is what is used.

 

[whl626]

Then I would put it that people just want to make it short for convenience sake.

 

[RonBee]

Then I would put it that people just want to make it short for convenience sake.

Do you mean leave out the month? That's possible if that is understood. Example:

• Are you free on the fourth?

What I meant tho is that people would either say November fourth or the fourth of November.

 

[whl626]

No, I mean leave out the ' th ' .

 

[Casiopea]

No, I mean leave out the ' th ' .

Mm. In business letters people tend to leave out the 'th':

8) Are you free the weekend of November 4?
8) Are you free the weekend of 4 November?

I don't know if it's that way in spoken form, though.

 

[whl626]

What I've seen is the first " Are you free the weekend of November 4 ?

That's why I wonder if 4 is short for 4th ? because of laziness

 

[Casiopea]

What I've seen is the first " Are you free the weekend of November 4 ?

That's why I wonder if 4 is short for 4th ? because of laziness

Using Numbers, Writing Lists

The advice proffered here is meant primarily for standard academic prose. Business and technical writing sometimes goes by a different set of standards, and writers of those kinds of text should consult a manual dedicated to those standards. (The APA Publication Manual has an extensive section devoted to the use of numbers in technical papers. The Chicago Manual of Style [chapter 13] addresses just about every issue that might come up in a technical or mathematical text.)

Dates and years: December 18, 1997. Avoid using ordinals when writing dates: Her birthday is on April 4.

http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/numbers.htm

 

[whl626]

That is some source . That clears up the mess once and for all Thanks

 

[RonBee]

What I've seen is the first " Are you free the weekend of November 4 ?

That's why I wonder if 4 is short for 4th ? because of laziness

Using Numbers, Writing Lists

The advice proffered here is meant primarily for standard academic prose. Business and technical writing sometimes goes by a different set of standards, and writers of those kinds of text should consult a manual dedicated to those standards. (The APA Publication Manual has an extensive section devoted to the use of numbers in technical papers. The Chicago Manual of Style [chapter 13] addresses just about every issue that might come up in a technical or mathematical text.)

Dates and years: December 18, 1997. Avoid using ordinals when writing dates: Her birthday is on April 4.

http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/numbers.htm

Apparently, that is some kind of rule for business writing. In speech at least, my birthday has always been July 4th.

Do you know what day of the year is a sentence?

:wink:

 

[whl626]

Ron, I believe that ' her birthday is on April 4. ' is actually pronounced as ' 4th ' verbally . Am I right ?

 

[RonBee]

Ron, I believe that ' her birthday is on April 4. ' is actually pronounced as ' 4th ' verbally . Am I right ?

Yes, that's quite probable.