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    the Italians

    I've read the expression the Italians meaning the Italian people. Is it correct? Why isn't it the Italian just as the poor or the rich?
    How does it work with names ending with -ish such as Spanish, English? And French?
    Thank you in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishlanguage View Post
    I've read the expression the Italians meaning the Italian people. Is it correct? Why isn't it the Italian just as the poor or the rich?
    How does it work with names ending with -ish such as Spanish, English? And French?
    Thank you in advance
    I think it's because of the ending '-an'. Cf.

    Italian, an Italian, some Italians, the Italians
    American, an American, some Americans, the Americans
    German, a German, some Germans, the Germans



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    Re: the Italians

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    I think it's because of the ending '-an'. Cf.

    Italian, an Italian, some Italians, the Italians
    American, an American, some Americans, the Americans
    German, a German, some Germans, the Germans

    So it is ok only for words ending with -an, isn't it?
    Is the Italian correct as well?
    thank you

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    So it is ok only for words ending with -an, isn't it?
    Is the Italian correct as well? thank you
    The Italian is correct as long as it describes one person, for example:

    Luca Toni passes the ball to Philippo Inzaghi, and he immediately scores! What a fabulous goal by the Italian. (the Italian = Inzaghi)

    If you want to talk about more than just one single person, you use some/the/those Italians.

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    Here's something that may come in handy:

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    Re: the Italians

    Thank you very much. The link was really useful.

    How would this sentence be with an English player?
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    Luca Toni passes the ball to Philippo Inzaghi, and he immediately scores! What a fabulous goal by the Italian. (the Italian = Inzaghi)
    Beckham passes the ball to Owen, and he immediately scores. What a fabulous goal by the English.
    Does this work? It doesn't sound good to me. I think in this case the English would mean "the english team".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishlanguage View Post
    Thank you very much. The link was really useful.

    How would this sentence be with an English player?


    Beckham passes the ball to Owen, and he immediately scores. What a fabulous goal by the English.
    Does this work? It doesn't sound good to me. I think in this case the English would mean "the english team".
    No, it doesn't, I'm afraid. You should write, ...What a fabulous goal by the Englishman.


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    No, it doesn't, I'm afraid. You should write, ...What a fabulous goal by the Englishman.
    Thank you very much.

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    Thank you very much.
    It's my pleasure.

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