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    fell off (please correct my sentences)

    Duing the exam, I hidden a matter which I kept to copy, fell off from my table and I got caught by my teacher. And I made to leave the class and my exam.
    Please correct my sentences.

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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    During the exam, a hidden piece of paper from which I was copying the answers had fallen off my table and I was picked up by my teacher. I was made to leave the class and wasn't able to finish the exam.

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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    During the exam, a hidden piece of paper from which I was copying the answers had fallen off my table and I was picked up by my teacher. I was made to leave the class and wasn't able to finish the exam.
    hi Casiopea

    Did you mean to have the "I" before "was picked up", and why do you prefer "had fallen" over "fell"?

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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    Thank you, 2006, for catching that typo. The sentence should read:

    During the exam, a hidden piece of paper from which I was copying the answers had fallen off my table and was picked up by my teacher. I was made to leave the class and wasn't able to finish the exam.
    Past Perfect, had + past participle, connects two events in time. The event that happened first is in the past perfect. The event that follows is in the simple past.

    Event 1: paper had fallen
    Event 2: was picked up

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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    1) But the meaning is perfectly clear with "...fell off the table and was picked up by my teacher'. Sorry, I just don't see any (good) reason to use perfect tense there.

    2) Why didn't you say, '...from which I had been copying...'?


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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    Thank you friends.
    I have learnt that the action which occurs first should be in simple past tense and later one should be perfect tense.

    So, I think, Casiopea is perfect.

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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    1) But the meaning is perfectly clear with "...fell off the table and was picked up by my teacher'. Sorry, I just don't see any (good) reason to use perfect tense there.
    That the past perfect is merging with the simple past is a present day example of language in change.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2006
    Why didn't you say, '...from which I had been copying...'?
    The events copying and fallen off aren't connected in the same way that fallen off and picked up are connected.

    Does that help?

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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    [quote The events copying and fallen off aren't connected in the same way that fallen off and picked up are connected.
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    I agree that they are not connected in exactly the same way, but there still are 3 events that are reported in that sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    I agree that they are not connected in exactly the same way, but there still are 3 events that are reported in that sentence.
    Ah. But how are they related in time?

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    Re: fell off (please correct my sentences)

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    Ah. But how are they related in time?
    Clearly the copying happened first, followed by the falling and then the picking up. We don't know how long the two intervals were.

    Anyway, I tried to make the point I wanted to make and I don't think I can say anything more without repeating myself. The last word can be yours.

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