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    grandfather as a proper noun

    I have often come across the situation where the words like `government', `grandfather' has been used like a proper noun i.e. with first letter capital, along with an article especially the article `the'. But I learned that we should not use an article with a proper noun. So I am confused.

    Could you assist me on this?

    [right now, I have neither any examples/context nor I can frame any sentence on my own.]
    If possible give me your own examples and explain it.
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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    I am not a native speaker but it seems to me you do not use articles when you speak about members of your own family:
    you say 'Grandfather' or "My Grandfather' (with the posessive pronoun) but without any article

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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    If you use a modifier like an article or possessive pronoun, words like grandfather are common nouns.

    I saw my grandfather at the park.
    In the family portrait, the baby is sitting on the grandfather's lap.

    If you use a word like grandfather in place of the person's name, it is a proper noun.

    Last week, Grandfather took us to the park.

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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    just a question: 'on his lap' or 'in his lap'?

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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    The little girl sat on her grandfather's lap.

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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    Do you ever say 'in his lap', in any context?

    Somebody, help!
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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    It doesn't sound unusual to me. It may be acceptable in some dialects.


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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    Quote Originally Posted by bianca View Post
    Do you ever say 'in his lap', in any context?

    Somebody, help!
    in nature's lap
    in the lap of the Gods



    I was also wondering:
    if I have a kitten for instance - is it IN my lap (the kitten is quite small, you see)? or is it ON my lap?

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    Wink Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    It's all about the preposition and the way you think about the lap. If it's considered as a surface on which you put something, you use on; if you consider the lap as a place in which something is put, then use in.

    Lee had a cat sitting on his lap.
    Mario sat with his hands clasped in his lap.

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    Re: grandfather as a proper noun

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    It's all about the preposition and the way you think about the lap. If it's considered as a surface on which you put something, you use on; if you consider the lap as a place in which something is put, then use in.

    Lee had a cat sitting on his lap.
    Mario sat with his hands clasped in his lap.
    Excellent!

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