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    #1

    until& by

    hello everybody

    i'm a new member and i need ur help about this grammer
    " the using of " until " & " by " and the deffirance between them
    plz if there are examples , it will be better .
    thanks for all

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    #2

    Re: until& by

    Quote Originally Posted by karim4u View Post
    hello everybody

    i'm a new member and i need ur help about this grammer
    " the using of " until " & " by " and the deffirance between them
    plz if there are examples , it will be better .
    thanks for all
    1. Till/until refers to a period of time:
    I will stay here until Friday

    2. By refers to deadlines: meaning not later than
    We have to finish our work by three O'clock.


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    #3

    Re: until& by

    BY means "not later than" so if you say sth like: "You must be at home by 7 o'clock." = it means you must be at home not later than 7 o'clock, you can come at 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock but not later that 7.

    And sth continues UNTIL (or till) a time in the future:
    Fred will be away until Monday. (= so he'll be back on Monday, not sooner).
    Compare:
    Fred will be back by Monday. (= so he'll be back not later than Monday)

    sth continues UNTIL (or till) a time in the future.
    sth happens BY a time in the future.

    I hope it helps.

  2. Newbie
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    #4

    Re: until& by

    hello
    it did but really i'm confused with this , i need some more EX to be clear
    if you don't mind
    thnx again


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    #5

    Re: until& by

    I walked till [until] I was tired.
    I talked till [until] I was hoarse.
    The rain lasted till [until] the morning.
    They were at school till [until] 4 o'clock in the afternoon.

    "At this time"
    Will you be ready to go to school by 9 o'clock in the morning?
    He was home by 6 o'clock in the evening.
    The meal will be ready by the time you come home.

    "Till" and "until" are interchangeable - either can be used.

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