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    ,and,

    Give me some examples using the conjunction "and" surrounded by two commas: ,and,

    Why is that?
    Last edited by learner2007; 10-Aug-2007 at 18:54.

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    Re: ,and,

    I would use a comma after "and" only if I wanted to make the phrase that followed set off my commas.

    He plans to arrive promptly at seven, and, unless I miss my guess, he will want dinner right away.

    Here the "unless I miss my guess" (which means "if I'm not wrong") is what is set off by commas. The commas don't surround and.

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    Re: ,and,

    I have never met "and" with a comma before and after it. It is not good grammar.

    It can be preceded by a comma:

    There is a long waiting list for this book, it is so popular, and you must wait your turn.

    It can be followed by a comma:

    The worst case is that he will be charged with murder and, if the case is proven, he will be jailed for life.

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    #4

    Re: ,and,

    Anglika, in that case, you would omit the comma before the and? Because I would leave it - it's the comma before the and with an independent clause following it.

    I think a lot of these things are matters of style and not grammar, so I'm not convinced there is only one correct answer. (Plus, you know how we crazy Americans punctuate things oddly anyway.)


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    Re: ,and,

    Yes, I would omit the comma before "and" in your example.

    It is often stylistic, but a comma fore and aft "and" looks odd and can read aloud odder.


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    Re: ,and,

    Many thanks!

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