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    Hi,


    I have following difficult problem of grammar. Please explain which answer is right/wrong with some reasons.


    It is argued that Einstein's contribution to physics was as important as [_____] ;

    (a) Newton
    (b) Newton's
    (c) of Newton
    (d) that of Newton's
    (e) that of Newton


    Your prompt reply will be appreciated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepcosmos View Post
    Hi,


    I have following difficult problem of grammar. Please explain which answer is right/wrong with some reasons.


    It is argued that Einstein's contribution to physics was as important as [_____] ;

    (a) Newton
    (b) Newton's
    (c) of Newton
    (d) that of Newton's
    (e) that of Newton


    Your prompt reply will be appreciated...

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    I'd go for (d), ...as that of Newton's.

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    Question Re: grammar/that of Newton's

    Hi, engee30 !

    Many thanks for your propmt reply, and can I ask you any detailed reason for
    your choice as [that of Newton's] ?

    Best rgds,

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    Re: grammar/that of Newton's

    Quote Originally Posted by deepcosmos View Post
    Hi, engee30 !

    Many thanks for your propmt reply, and can I ask you any detailed reason for
    your choice as [that of Newton's] ?

    Best rgds,
    When posting questions like this, please make an attempt to answer it yourself. Our aim is to teach, not to do your work for you.

    Here's a clue: d is wrong.

    b

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    Question Re: grammar

    Hello, Bobk !!

    Many thanks for your last pointing out.
    I considered (d) [that of Newton's] as right answer with following reasons ;

    1. Full sentence before abbreviation ; It is argued [Einstein's contribution to
    physics] was as important as [Newton's contribution to physics] was important.
    (I thought [] should be compared with [])

    2. After 1st abbreviation ; It ~ that [Einstein's contribution to physics] was as
    important as [Newton's contribution to physics].

    3. After 2nd abbreviation ; It ~ that [Einstein's contribution to physics] was as
    important as [Newton's [that] (=contribution)].
    (['s=possesive case] is not suitable with [that=possesive pronoun])

    4.Finally ; It is argued that Einstein's contribution to physics was as important
    as [that of Newton's]...

    Would hope to hear your bright explanation surely overnight,if possible.

    Thanks in advance n b.rgds

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    Question Re: grammar

    Hello, BobK !!

    In para.3 of my previous message [that=possessive pronoun] should be

    read as [demonstrative pronoun].



    B.rgds,

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    Question Re: grammar

    Hello, BobK !!

    Moreover, I have found following usages after the Google searching ;

    1. Earlier laws of physics like [those] of Newton's were mere approximations
    of these perfect laws.

    2. But if KM was right with his analysis then I don't see why his analysis
    couldn't stand as well as [that] of Newton's despite the fact that capitalism
    (class society) will someday be 'just history'.

    3. Frankly I do not know, though I think the effect will be as great as [that]
    of Newton's work, which created most of the intellectual forces of the 18th
    century.

    B.rgds,

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    Re: grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by deepcosmos View Post
    Hello, BobK !!

    Moreover, I have found following usages after the Google searching ;

    1. Earlier laws of physics like [those] of Newton's were mere approximations
    of these perfect laws.

    2. But if KM was right with his analysis then I don't see why his analysis
    couldn't stand as well as [that] of Newton's despite the fact that capitalism
    (class society) will someday be 'just history'.

    3. Frankly I do not know, though I think the effect will be as great as [that]
    of Newton's work, which created most of the intellectual forces of the 18th
    century.

    B.rgds,
    Google is useful, but can can be just a receptacle for common mistakes. In 'It is argued that Einstein's contribution to physics was as important as ...' that is a subordinating conjunction; but in 'that of Newton' it is a pronoun, standing for 'the contribution'. What is as important is this (the contribution); and 'the contribution' could be replaced by either 'Newton's' or 'that of Newton'.

    For some reason, I suppose, the writer of that question believes that either b or e is better; but I see no reason for choosing between them - except on grounds of the (silly, in my view) preference for 'elegant variation' - which would favour 'that of Newton' (because fans of elegant variation think it's a Good Thing to make readers work harder and parse equivalent structures rather than understand what they've read by reference to a structure they've already parsed ).

    b

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    Re: grammar

    Test constructors these days are hung up on "parallel structure," the opposite of elegant variation.

    The answer is b because the sentence compares Newton's to Einstein's [contributions].

    Parallelism would require a "that of Newton" sentence to read like this:

    It is argued that the contribution of Einstein to physics was as important as that of Newton.

    Choices a, c, and d are patently ungrammatical, and the circumstance for using choice e is outlined above. Therefore, the answer is b, Newton's.

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    Talking Re: grammar

    Hello, BobK and mykwyner !!

    Many thanks for your explanation with note.
    Now I feel I have escaped from the last headache !!! ...

    Best Rgds,

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