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    Give and they mean?

    Hello I would like to ask native speakers of English the following quesetions.
    The idea that the population of the earth can continue to increase and that everyone on the planet will eventually be able to enjoy a first-world standard of living is attractive but ultimately impossible to defend. Despite the arguments of many government and business leaders, unlimited population growth is simply not compatible with unlimited economic growth. Something has to give. First-world leaders are inclined to argue that since most population growth is occurring in the third world, the third world must take drastic measures to limit its population. Third-world leaders, however, argue that while their countries have faster rates of population growth, their citizens on average consume less than people in first-world countries. The third world, they say, should be able to enjoy its fair share of the world’s resources.

    What does give mean? Something has to change or occur?

    give
    1 To yield to physical force. [/font]
    A To collapse from force or pressure: The roof gave under the weight of the snow.
    B .To yield to change: Both sides will have to give on some issues.

    What is the meaning of they ?
    1. People in general as it is said 2. Third world leaders 3. First world leaders
    I think the answer is No.1. But I’m not sure. Is there no way that they mean the third world leaders? If not, why?

    Thank you very much
    Last edited by Progress; 11-Sep-2007 at 17:28. Reason: Typo

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    Re: Give and they mean?

    Yes, "give' means something has to change or happen. It also means that if something doesn't change, one of the desired goals will have to be (given up) (abandoned).

    "they" are Third-world leaders.


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    Re: Give and they mean?

    Thank you very much, 2006

    In this case, give has deep meaning and is not just used to mean change or happen but also include "something has to be given up.?"

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    Re: Give and they mean?

    Something has to give (idiom), a situation will be resolved one way or the other. It can't remain a stalemate forever.


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    Thank you very much, Soup.

    If you paraphrase something has to give, in this case, does it mean contermeasures are needed?

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    Re: Give and they mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Progress View Post
    Thank you very much, Soup.

    If you paraphrase something has to give, in this case, does it mean contermeasures are needed?
    No. When opposing forces meet, one of the forces has to "yield"; otherwise, change or progress cannot occur. That's the meaning of give in the idiom something has to give. See also pilko100's post here something's gotta give - WordReference Forums (post #3).

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    Does it mean to sacrifice stg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LwyrFirat View Post
    Does it mean to sacrifice something?
    In a way, yes, it could. It depends on the context.


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    Thank you very much, Soup.

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