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    Believe in or believe?

    Hello everybody,
    Today is the weekend, so I hope everybody has a nice weekend.
    I have a question with my grammar.
    In these sentences, which one is correct?

    1. I believe myself.
    2. I believe in myself.

    Thanks alot for helping.


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    Re: Believe in or believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by thienthan20 View Post
    Hello everybody,
    Today is the weekend, so I hope everybody has a nice weekend.
    I have a question with my grammar.
    In these sentences, which one is correct?

    1. I believe myself.
    2. I believe in myself.

    Thanks alot for helping.
    Two separate meanings, T. Number 1 means of all the choices made by everyone, I think I am right about [something].

    Number 2 meanings that gnerally, I think I'm a worthwhile person, that I make the right choices, not always but I'm pretty confident in who I am and what I believe.

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    Re: Believe in or believe?

    1. I believe myself. <fragmented; incomplete>
    2. I believe in myself.

    Complete / non-fragments examples for believe myself
    I am stronger than I believe myself to be.
    How can I believe myself when no one can believe me?
    ...and why should I believe myself?


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    Re: Believe in or believe?

    Have you ever analysed any speech, Soup? We don't speak in completel sentences. Speech can't be compared to the structure of writing because speech and writing are two separate aspects of language use.

    In speech we use fragments all the time.

    Where are you teaching in Asia?

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    Re: Believe in or believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    Have you ever analysed any speech, Soup?
    Well, yes. Would 2 consecutive years of documenting language count?

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid
    We don't speak in completel sentences.
    I doubt anyone speaks *"completel". The correct word is complete.

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid
    Speech can't be compared to the structure of writing_because speech and writing are two separate aspects of language use.
    You need a comma there. And aspects is the wrong term.

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid
    In speech we use fragments all the time.
    You keep saying "We". Who is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid
    Where are you teaching in Asia?
    Why assume I am teaching?


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    Re: Believe in or believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    Well, yes. Would 2 consecutive years of documenting language count?

    I doubt anyone speaks *"completel". The correct word is complete.

    Thank you, you're most gracious.

    You need a comma there. And aspects is the wrong term.

    A grammar marm too.

    You keep saying "We". Who is that?

    Native speakers of English, Soup.

    Why assume I am teaching?

    An assumption too large. My apologies.
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    #7

    Re: Believe in or believe?

    I believe we have strayed somewhat from the question.

    The answer to your original pairing is that "I believe in myself" is the expected response.

    If you use "him" instead of "myself" you have this choice:
    I believe him.
    I believe in him.

    I believe him - I think he is telling the truth.
    I believe in him - I think he is a good person, or will be successful, or that he will do his best for us all, etc. This is a vote of confidence for the person, and has nothing to do with whether his words are accurate.

    [not a teacher] (and it's a logical assumption that you're a teacher if you don't make such a disclaimer, in accordance with the rules of this forum)

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