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    process or procedure

    They had to sit through a gory videoon surgical procedure.
    They have developed a new process for extracting aluminium from bauxite.


    Both can mean a series of actions that you take in order to achieve a result. How can I distinguish from them? Would there be any catagoies belong to "process" and to "procedure"?

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    Re: process or procedure

    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    They had to sit through a gory videoon surgical procedure.
    They have developed a new process for extracting aluminium from bauxite.


    Both can mean a series of actions that you take in order to achieve a result. How can I distinguish from them? Would there be any catagoies belong to "process" and to "procedure"?
    The two words mean just about the same thing and may be interchanged.

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    Is there not an element of collocation here? To me, 'surgical process' sounds strange, while 'surgical procedure' sounds fine.


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    I found the answer. I forgot I have Oxford collocations at hand. 8) I am going to swallow the whole book.

    thanks, tdol.

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    Re: process or procedure

    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    They had to sit through a gory videoon surgical procedure.
    They have developed a new process for extracting aluminium from bauxite.


    Both can mean a series of actions that you take in order to achieve a result. How can I distinguish from them? Would there be any catagoies belong to "process" and to "procedure"?
    There are many similarities, but the words are not often interchangeable.

    For me, a "process" brings to mind a series of automatic steps, very mechanical in nature. It shows up in manufacturing, automation, digestion, etc. By contrast a "procedure" is more guided by purposeful action, human involvement, less-mechanical.

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    I was cramming Oxford Collocations and managing to generalize the rules. I was nearly there before I read your analysis. That's very impressive.

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    • Either: the process refers to an election creating a winner. the procedure would involve the counting of ballots and validating them.


    That's a good logical explanation. Now I understand.

    Dear Mike, I really can't thank you enough for your kindly help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    I was cramming Oxford Collocations and managing to generalize the rules. I was nearly there before I read your analysis. That's very impressive.

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    • Either: the process refers to an election creating a winner. the procedure would involve the counting of ballots and validating them.


    That's a good logical explanation. Now I understand.

    Dear Mike, I really can't thank you enough for your kindly help.
    You're quite welcome. :D

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