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    Try to find the mistake please.

    Are there the mistakes in this sentence?

    He knows how to win and he gets his goal accomplished.


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    Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tvita View Post
    Are there any mistakes in this sentence?

    He knows how to win and he gets his goal accomplished.
    "...he accomplishes his goals."

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    #3

    Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    You have two independent clauses joined by a coordinating conjunction; therefore, you need a comma.


    He knows how to win, and he gets his goal accomplished.

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    Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    Quote Originally Posted by mykwyner View Post
    You have two independent clauses joined by a coordinating conjunction; therefore, you need a comma.


    He knows how to win, and he gets his goal accomplished.
    Why do we ''need'' a comma?


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    Question Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    Thanks a lot to All!

    By the way if there is no a particular mistake, then could you please explain to me the clause structure I am interested in the second part especially ("he gets his goal accomplished")?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    Hello Tvita!

    Just a few thoughts...

    1. I'm not sure 'accomplish' is the best word in this context...it means to conclude successfully, to complete. I would have thought 'achieve' would fit better with 'goals'.

    2. ... 'gets his goal accomplished'...maybe I'm a bit old-fashioned, but 'to get something + past participle' usually gives the idea that the thing is done by another agent.

    For example, 'he gets his hair cut' implies he doesn't do it himself. 'He gets his shirts ironed every week' implies somebody does it for him.

    I think 'achieves his goal' would be better.

    3. I agree that a comma should separate the phrases. This is is good practise when more than two words together, or phrases or groupings occur together in a sequence.

    Hope this helps!

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    Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    "He knows how to win and he gets his goal accomplished."

    finta:

    First of all, welcome to the forum. I agree that this is not the most natural way to express this idea in English, but that is an issue in language usage, not language mechanics. The only mistake in the above sentence is the absence of a comma between win and and. There is no rule in English about using a comma "when more than two words together, or phrases or groupings occur together in a sequence." There is a rule that says:
    "When the second independent clause in a sentence begins with a coordinating conjunction, a comma is needed before the coordinating conjunction." Independent and Dependent Clauses

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    Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    Quote Originally Posted by mykwyner View Post
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    There is a rule that says:
    "When the second independent clause in a sentence begins with a coordinating conjunction, a comma is needed before the coordinating conjunction." Independent and Dependent Clauses
    I know that rule exists but I just don't agree with it. In my opinion, in a sentence that is not too long and is easy to follow, a comma serves no useful purpose. The conjunction itself indicates that a new clause is beginning.

    Having said that, I am more inclined to use commas when the readers are ESL students. After all, the purpose of punctuation is to make it easier to read and understand what is written, and ESL students need more help. I would use fewer commas when writing for native speakers.

    That's just my opinion and I don't expect to have the rule reversed anytime soon.
    Finally, when I was a student a few decades ago, we were not taught to put commas before conjunctions in compound sentences.


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    Re: Try to find the mistake please.

    By the way I think I should explain why I wrote this post. I heard this sentence on Air America radio and I liked it and I just wanted to make sure that I recognized it correctly (didn't miss some prepositions for example).

    Thank you All for help!

    In my opinion this sentence is more natural than "to achieve a goal" because it has a soul. "To achieve a goal" sounds a little bit robotic like usual phrase from text books.
    Last edited by Tvita; 19-Oct-2007 at 09:09.

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