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    How many parties involved?

    Hi

    In the below sentence, how many parties involved? Is't "a person" different from "the other"? and what's the meaning of "claimed from the other"?

    Thanks
    skymoon

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    (1)A person commits an offence if, with the object of coercing another person to pay money claimed from the other as a debt due under a contract, he "


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    Re: How many parties involved?

    In the sentence below, how many parties are involved? Isn't "a person" different to "the other"? and what's the meaning of "claimed from the other"?


    "40 Punishment for unlawful harassment of debtors
    (1)A person(Tom) commits an offence if, with the aim of coercing another person(Dick) to pay money claimed from the other(Dick) as a debt due under a contract, he(Tom) "

    Most legal wording can be difficult to understand. Dick owes Tom some money (the debt) which has not been repaid. If he(Tom)... (takes some action XYZ), then if he does this specifically to force Dick to pay Tom the money, then the law will regard this as coercion, and Tom has committed an offence.

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    Re: How many parties involved?

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    In the sentence below, how many parties are involved? Isn't "a person" different to "the other"? and what's the meaning of "claimed from the other"?


    "40 Punishment for unlawful harassment of debtors
    (1)A person(Tom) commits an offence if, with the aim of coercing another person(Dick) to pay money claimed from the other(Dick) as a debt due under a contract, he(Tom) "

    Most legal wording can be difficult to understand. Dick owes Tom some money (the debt) which has not been repaid. If he(Tom)... (takes some action XYZ), then if he does this specifically to force Dick to pay Tom the money, then the law will regard this as coercion, and Tom has committed an offence.
    Hi David,

    So, can we say that there are two parties only (Tom and Dick), or Does it imply that "tom" was sent to force someone to pay money for "some companies"? So there could be three parties are involvied.

    skymoon


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    Re: How many parties involved?

    Yes - the two relevant words are:
    a person commits an offence
    another person ( and later, referred to as 'the other' - they are the same person.
    If might be possible - you see it in films - where the boss sends one of his henchman, a 'heavy', round to a person's home to do the actual "dirty work" of coercing the money. In that case, if they had enough evidence, both the boss and the henchman might be charged with having committed a felony. The henchman would be seen as the agent acting on behalf of the 'boss'.
    But be clear, the sentence is referring to two people only.
    Last edited by David L.; 12-Nov-2007 at 23:12.

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    Re: How many parties involved?

    David,

    Thanks!

    skymoon

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