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    tenses

    Hello,

    I would like to know the difference between these sentences:

    1. It has been increasing. (Present Perfect Continuous)
    2. It has been increased. (??????)
    3. It is increasing. (Present Perfect)
    4 It has increased.


    For example, I can't figure out the difference between 1, 2 and 4. I can't figure out what difference makes "been". It seems redundant in 2 for example.

    Please help. Thank you.

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    Re: tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by anreak View Post
    Hello,

    I would like to know the difference between these sentences:

    1. It has been increasing. (Present Perfect Continuous)
    2. It has been increased. (??????)
    3. It is increasing. (Present Perfect)
    4 It has increased.


    For example, I can't figure out the difference between 1, 2 and 4. I can't figure out what difference makes "been". It seems redundant in 2 for example.

    Please help. Thank you.

    hello,

    i am just a student...but i agree with u.

    for us, Brazilians, 1, 2 and 4 seems to take us to the very same idea.

    1 - tem estado aumentando
    2 - tem sido aumentado
    3 - esta aumentando
    4 - tem aumentado

    regards


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    Re: tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by anreak View Post
    Hello,

    I would like to know the difference between these sentences:


    Language needs context to make sense, Anreak. Empty grammar exercises are both unproductive and frustrating for students.

    1. The rain has been increasing. (Present Perfect Continuous)

    RK: It means "More rain is falling hour by hour".

    2. The rain has been increased. (??????)

    RK: This is strange because it's a passive structure. Who has the rain been increased by, by god?

    3. The rain is increasing. (Present Perfect)

    RK: This isn't "Present Perfect". It's the present continuous. It tells us that we can see the rain getting stronger right now.


    4 The rain has increased.

    RK: This has basically the same meaning as number 1. Over a period of time, starting from an undescribed point in the past, the rain has gradually increased in intensity.

    For example, I can't figure out the difference between 1, 2 and 4. I can't figure out what difference makes "been". It seems redundant in 2 for example.



    Please help. Thank you.
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    Re: tenses

    In the case:

    The rain has been increasing.


    Does "increasing" mean "stronger and stronger"? Would it be an adjective in this sentence??

    Does "has been" reffers to the rain itself???

    Finally, could I rewrite the sentece as: The rain (itself) is getting stronger and stronger?

    I know it's kind of boring to native speakers to get into grammar details but to the poor learner it can do and help so much.

    The other doubts are ok, thank you so much, RK.


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    Re: tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by anreak View Post
    In the case:

    The rain has been increasing.


    Does "increasing" mean "stronger and stronger"? Would it be an adjective in this sentence??

    It means "getting stronger and stronger".

    Does "has been" refer to the rain itself???

    'has been increasing', meaning "getting stronger and stronger", refers to 'rain'.

    Finally, could I rewrite the sentence as: The rain (itself) is getting stronger and stronger?

    Yes, you could/can, Anreak.


    I know it's kind of boring to native speakers to get into grammar details but to the poor learner it can do and help so much.


    I understand what you're saying, Anreak, but in order to make sense, the grammar has to have meaning, context or you will never be able to understand the connections between grammar and language use.


    The other doubts are ok, thank you so much, RK.


    You're most welcome.
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    Re: tenses

    I have been repeating my english writing class for many times.. (does it come)?? if it .. this is my situation unfortunatlly

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