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    double negative

    Hello,


    Time to time I notice double negative in a sentence. As I know it should not be normally there.


    E.g.
    I can't get no satisfaction. (a Stones' song)
    I won't do nothing. (a sentence from a film)


    Please could you explain to me this?


    Thanks a lot.


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    #2

    Re: double negative

    It's colloquial...People sometimes use it...

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    #3

    Re: double negative

    the grammatical ban of double negative is a piece of bullshit. Under certain circumstances you may use two negatives in one sentence and be correct,...eg.:

    "I cannot not help him"
    or even "I did not do it for no reason" etc.

    Trust me I have studied an english grammar theory for a while.

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    #4

    Re: double negative

    I don't care much about grammar correctness here but primarily about the meaning.
    In my opinion I can't get no satisfaction = I must get some satisfaction.
    What do you mean about?

    Thanks.

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    #5

    Re: double negative

    Quote Originally Posted by Tapies View Post
    I don't care much about grammar correctness here but primarily about the meaning.
    In my opinion I can't get no satisfaction = I must get some satisfaction.
    What do you mean about?

    Thanks.
    Hello Tapies,

    "I can't get no satisfaction" means "I am unable to get any satisfaction".

    The double negative was standard in English, in the time of e.g. Chaucer. In modern English, it's considered to be non-standard (i.e. it wouldn't appear in national newspaper reports on foreign affairs, academic texts, instruction manuals, etc.).

    Its function in non-standard English is often emphatic (as in the song).

    Best wishes,

    MrP

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    #6

    Re: double negative

    Quote Originally Posted by Tapies View Post
    I don't care much about grammar correctness here but primarily about the meaning.
    In my opinion I can't get no satisfaction = I must get some satisfaction.
    What do you mean about?

    Thanks.
    it's confusing to me. isn't it and expression that has "caught" just because of the rolling stone's song?

    can i say:

    i can't get any satisfaction
    i can't get satisfaction
    i can't have satisfaction

    ?

    thanks

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    Re: double negative

    Hello jc,

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    it's confusing to me. isn't it and expression that has "caught" just because of the rolling stone's song?
    The double negative was very common before the song was written; so I don't think we can attribute its success to Jagger/Richards.

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post

    can i say:

    1. i can't get any satisfaction
    2. i can't get satisfaction
    3. i can't have satisfaction
    I would only recommend #1. #2 might sound odd; and it would be difficult to find a context for #3.

    Best wishes,

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    #8

    Re: double negative

    OK, thank you all a lot.

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